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Did grave robbers plunder battlefields?

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The deeper you plough this field, the more fruitful the findings. No dead end in sight. This may even take the cake. Dark and heavy Belgian cake. Cake of the dead, so to speak.

This sounds suspiciously close to the Anglican Inquisition . . .

Well, for good reasons nobody expects the Anglican Inquisition ...

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If there's ever a plane crash I'm looking for cash and watches.

Don't forget to grab a garbage bag full of weed on your way out.[0] [0] https://www.climbing.com/people/yosemite-dope-airplane-crash...

Just hope the bears don’t get to the cocaine first.

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And then I thought, we've known for some time that dead men make good fertilizer. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/200th-a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_Soldier

In Belgium we (not me) used the corpses from the famous waterloo battle to refine sugar.

The blood of the Martyrs shall water the meadows of...Belgium.

Close enough.

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This is very cool actually! Human bodies take so many resources from the Earth to grow, the very least we can do is recycle what's left when we die. Body composting ("green burial") is an increasingly popular option today, but I wouldn't mind if my bones were used in manufacturing either. (Actually my biggest objection would be who's profiting off my bones. I've spent almost my whole life so far enriching billionaires, and it would be cool if that could end at my death.)

I think what's most surprising to me is that I didn't realize battlefield mass graves were actually so common in the past. At this scale it makes sense, but I had an idea from antiquity studies that war dead were expected to be brought home for burial. (That could also be untrue of antiquity tbh; burial was always an incidental topic.)

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Maybe part of the explanation is that there weren't as many soldiers in these battles as historical accounts say. We're well aware that official Roman numbers of the sizes of armies were hugely bloated compared to reality. The same might well be true of later battles.

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1800 is somewhat recent history (compared to year 1799 or -1). It is interesting that stuff like this gets forgotten in such short time frame and requires investigation/ discovery. It’s interesting to wonder, what common facts of today, will become mysteries for future historians.

Could history education usefully emphasize a theme of time-traveler surprise? - "You've traveled back in time, and find... wtf that's weird!"

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I just remembered that the first time I read about this, I rummaged around for source material. There is a book from 1840 in which the processing of human bones from battlefields is described as productive and profitable. Carl T. von Natorp, "Ueber den Gebrauch und Werth der Knochendüngung", 1840 "On the use and value of bone fertilization"

There is a bad scan by google books of parts of the text written in German Fraktur, but on page 410 he's clearly talking about the English that started to collect bones from the battlefields to use as fertilizer in 1822.

https://books.google.de/books?id=PyRAAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA410&lpg=P...

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> there were so many mummies around from Egypt that they were used as fuel in some cases Likely, but it seems they aren’t 100% sure of that at the Encyclopædia Brittanica. https://www.britannica.com/list/7-surprising-uses-for-mummie... : “It was claimed by author Mark Twain that mummies had been used as fuel for locomotives. In his 1869 travel book called The Innocents Abroad, Twain describes the first railroad in Eg…

We know, anyway, that they used untold millions of cat mummies for locomotive fuel. In other news, Egyptians mummified millions of cats.

So maybe the human mummies were just there to provide for the cat mummies needs, in the afterlife?

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To use on the english trains ?

If you're seriously asking, I highly doubt so. Great Britain has massive deposits of relatively clean, accessible coal. They are mostly in Wales but also in England and Scotland. Therefore there would be little reason to import any fuel from Egypt; over that distance, the steam ship would probably consume as many mummies as it was carrying.

I highly doubt so too, which is why I'm wondering why they would import it en-masse. What value would mass remains have ?
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