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Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by e12e »

jasode wrote: post #53

From the main project page, it mentions it has typical alias support: >Email aliases, mailing lists, subaddressing and catch-all addresses support. Another feature that would be nice to have built-in is masked hide-my-email aliases for privacy like the cloaked email services from iCloud, FastMail, SimpleLogin, Cloudflare email routing, etc.[1] For now, I use the typical aliases addresses in Dovecot but it doesn't hid…

The project name escapes me, but there was a python project that generated email addresses with a hmac, and rejected invalid addresses (some-prefix-c679ba1@example.com). I think it came out a little before the rise of grey listing.

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by hannofcart »

Have been running Stalwart for around 6months now. Works great so far. Setting up DKIM, DMARC, SPF etc. was a breeze.

Now I am able to send reliably to Gmail, and semi-reliably to Outlook.

My mail volumes are very low however. I just setup this as my SMTP server just for the heck of it.

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by docc »

infogulch wrote: post #47

How does the directory management ui work with an external directory, say LDAP? I've been looking at both Stalwart and Kanidm, I suspect they would be a good pairing. https://kanidm.com/

i paired it with ldap. So users and adresses are managed by ldap

ldap is currently a second citizen in stalwart tho so there are rough edges and missing features. But the basics are there

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Post by gingerlime »

jasode wrote: post #53

From the main project page, it mentions it has typical alias support: >Email aliases, mailing lists, subaddressing and catch-all addresses support. Another feature that would be nice to have built-in is masked hide-my-email aliases for privacy like the cloaked email services from iCloud, FastMail, SimpleLogin, Cloudflare email routing, etc.[1] For now, I use the typical aliases addresses in Dovecot but it doesn't hid…

I’m using postfix/dovecot with mysql backed accounts (compatible with postfixadmin) and I have a tiny bash script that:

* generates a random email

* asks for an optional description

* inserts new email to the database

* adds an entry to postgrey whitelist

* emails me the address and description (so I can search the email address later in my inbox if necessary)

Works a treat for me, but not something my family can use.

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by Marsymars »

scrose wrote: post #16
jen729w wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roll your own with Amazon SES. Bang up a little script and call the CLI. for recipient in "${recipients[@]}"; do aws sesv2 send-email \ --from-email-address "$sender" \ --destination "ToAddresses=$recipient" \ --content "Simple={Subject={Data='$subject',Charset='UTF-8'},Body={Text={Data='$body',Charset='UTF-8'}}}" \ --region "$region" done I got that script from their website. Should be easy enough to knock something…

In my experience, it’s extremely difficult to get out of the SES sandbox, for what I presume is if your account/org is under a certain amount of spend with them. While basically free under a certain amount of usage, the gatekeeping there does make the idea of self-hosting your email free/cheaply sort of a nonstarter for indie devs. For context, getting out of the sandbox at every org I worked at was essentially a sin…

I actually just did this a couple weeks ago. I'm just one data point, so I've no real idea what the difficulty is of escaping the sandbox, but I created a brand new AWS account, made it clear that I'd be using SES purely for low volume transactional emails for people who had opted in and could opt out at any time, and they approved me within a couple days.

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Post by kevincox »

e12e wrote: post #61
jasode wrote: post #53

From the main project page, it mentions it has typical alias support: >Email aliases, mailing lists, subaddressing and catch-all addresses support. Another feature that would be nice to have built-in is masked hide-my-email aliases for privacy like the cloaked email services from iCloud, FastMail, SimpleLogin, Cloudflare email routing, etc.[1] For now, I use the typical aliases addresses in Dovecot but it doesn't hid…

The project name escapes me, but there was a python project that generated email addresses with a hmac, and rejected invalid addresses (some-prefix-c679ba1@example.com). I think it came out a little before the rise of grey listing.

https://blame.email/ is a website that does this. I wrote a Lua checker for rspamd that bypasses the spam filter if the address is "signed". I also have a bookmarklet that generates a signed address and inserts it into the current text field.

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by Avamander »

julienmarie wrote: post #25
tetrisgm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Wdym by warm up your ips? How does mailreach relate to the setup?

What email warming services do is they create activity between your server and hundreds of email accounts they manage on major ISPs and they make sure to click on "not spam" if it falls under spam, and try to bring your emails to the main inbox. It's a bit of a grey area thing in fairness.

If service providers don't already detect such users it's quite guaranteed that they will in the future.

Trying to game the system is frowned upon in all cases.

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Post by softjobs »

notyoutube wrote: post #40

It's interesting how there is now * Maddy: https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy * Mox: https://github.com/mjl-/mox * and Stalwart which all see to aim for more or less the same niche. I wonder if we'll see two of those merge eventually.

Only Stalwart supports JMAP, which imo is the future of mail/calendar/contacts client-server communication.

https://jmap.io/

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by logifail »

softjobs wrote: post #69
notyoutube wrote: post #40

It's interesting how there is now * Maddy: https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy * Mox: https://github.com/mjl-/mox * and Stalwart which all see to aim for more or less the same niche. I wonder if we'll see two of those merge eventually.

Only Stalwart supports JMAP, which imo is the future of mail/calendar/contacts client-server communication. https://jmap.io/

It seems JMAP isn't universally loved, see for instance the spirited discussion in [0], although I've no direct experience.

My Maildirs "justed worked" though, and have been moved across dozens of servers - not to mention worked in so many different filesystems - over the years.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19876710

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