Earlier quoted context omitted.
With ActivityPub you are still putting everything in one basket. All the federation is completely optional and identities are not transferable. But unlike big corps, that generally care very little about what you do, a whole lot of ActivityPub instances are heavily politically motivated and love to block or defederate.
That's not entirely correct. Mastodon already implements a feature to migrate to a new instance. Also there is a draft for identities that are not bound to an instance.
ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
61–70 of 76 posts
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wholeheartedly believe that those are anti-features. They're metrics that drive antisocial behavior and make the world a little worse.
You say so on a website that displays the number of likes (here: "points") for every post right on the front page.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#63This is from January 30th. Since then Bluesky has opened up to everyone (no invitation required), allows you to host your own PDS and even added new community based moderation tools known as Ozone internally, but acts a a "labeling service". It allows those who subscribe to them to get more specific tailored content they don't (or in some cases do!) want to see and it is labeled with a tag on accounts or posts, then…
First I’m hearing of it!
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This, to me, is an argument against Nostr. To elaborate, I prefer that the barrier is greater.
Why should minds be put in jails? Why should we segregate into like-minded and undesirables? We're better than this. I grew up with [x views, y political party], but because the early internet was open and accepting and not at all like this, I was able to see the broader world and wholly new perspectives. Now the bias is to shit on, shame, and block everyone. That's not going to build a better society. The internet p…
I still hear about their awfulness, I just don't have to see it in my microblog timeline.
I'm not missing anything, make much better connections with people, have respectful disagreements.
Ain't nobody being censored. I'm just no longer wasting oxygen on the outrage mongers.
Oh and being banned from a bunch of subreddits says more about you, than about moderation.
Pretty sure I'm happy to have a feed that doesn't include you in it.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#65These all feel quite over-engineered. I feel like a combination of a webpage with your bio and a feed of posts with an associated RSS feed could cover the "follow a user/microblogging" side of social media, and email could cover direct messaging and threaded conversations. What am I missing that these protocols bring to the table?
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should minds be put in jails? Why should we segregate into like-minded and undesirables? We're better than this. I grew up with [x views, y political party], but because the early internet was open and accepting and not at all like this, I was able to see the broader world and wholly new perspectives. Now the bias is to shit on, shame, and block everyone. That's not going to build a better society. The internet p…
I see lots of folks I disagree with on Mastodon. But thankfully I'm now not seeing the Nazis, the fascist tech folks like Balaji S, or the Tankies. I still hear about their awfulness, I just don't have to see it in my microblog timeline. I'm not missing anything, make much better connections with people, have respectful disagreements. Ain't nobody being censored. I'm just no longer wasting oxygen on the outrage monge…
While it is tempting to conclude that, and my initial reaction was similar, anyone would be banned from a lot of subreddits if they were to seek out controversy by going into spaces they disagree with and state their opinions. It can say a lot about someone, but doesn't have to.
I agree with you overall, though. There are outright Nazi instances - nobody is being censored. But they have no right to force their way into communities that do not want to interact with them, and on Mastodon we have the power to enforce that, or we can choose to delegate it to people we trust.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wholeheartedly believe that those are anti-features. They're metrics that drive antisocial behavior and make the world a little worse.
You say so on a website that displays the number of likes (here: "points") for every post right on the front page.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
So is Twitter, and every other social network. They just don't give you the tools to clearly delineate boundaries.
There are debates and groups on other networks. But there aren’t schisms over alt text or content warnings for food on Threads.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should minds be put in jails? Why should we segregate into like-minded and undesirables? We're better than this. I grew up with [x views, y political party], but because the early internet was open and accepting and not at all like this, I was able to see the broader world and wholly new perspectives. Now the bias is to shit on, shame, and block everyone. That's not going to build a better society. The internet p…
No minds are "put in jails". But they do not have a right to unfettered access to me . I'm free to choose to set standards, and the standard of requiring them to have a second account if they both want access to me and to content I find deplorable is a really low barrier. And others are free to choose to commune with me in the spaces I want to spend time in, and communities are free to set their standards. I've not a…
Someone blocks you? Fine you can still access in incognito/private mode anyway. This is true on twitter, activitypub, AT too.
If you really want barriers, you should use networks that work on encrypted private groups.
Re: ActivityPub/Nostr/At-Bluesky Compared
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
No minds are "put in jails". But they do not have a right to unfettered access to me . I'm free to choose to set standards, and the standard of requiring them to have a second account if they both want access to me and to content I find deplorable is a really low barrier. And others are free to choose to commune with me in the spaces I want to spend time in, and communities are free to set their standards. I've not a…
You are pretty naive if you think there are barriers on networks that allows you to publish publicly. Someone blocks you? Fine you can still access in incognito/private mode anyway. This is true on twitter, activitypub, AT too. If you really want barriers, you should use networks that work on encrypted private groups.
That someone has to use icognito/private mode is a barrier.
Sometimes it's an insufficient barrier, but in practice what we see is that often minor little limitations like that are the right tradeoff between restricting access in ways that starts to cause problems vs. adding enough friction to deter a whole lot of unwanted behaviour when your goal is to keep the system as open as possible.
Going to encrypted private groups when just throwing up a minor limitation is enough to achieve the desired effect for most people would be wildly excessive. E.g. I don't care if people I block can see my posts - I care that I don't have to host their stuff on my instance. Others do care if people they block can see their posts.
As it is, Mastodon instances, and other parts of the fediverse, operate with multiple levels of privacy, from fully open, to somewhat selective blocks, to authorized fetch + limited federation (whitelisted federation only, w/only logged in users or whitelisted servers able to access posts at all), to at least one group with a dual-level instance setup where the "inner" instance only federates with the "outer" instance and outsiders have no direct access to the inner instance at all.
That we can pick and choose on a sliding scale how closed off we want to be rather than pick a binary is a feature (and nothing prevents anyone from adding encryption to posts using ActivityPub if they want to; in fact I have a side-project that probably will add the option of encrypted content).