Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.
PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
61–70 of 83 posts
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#62Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
>You could probably get someone, but would you get someone good (competent, trustworthy, etc)? The same could be asked of people who work on open projects for free, could it not? Is a financial reward (or lack of such reward), in and of itself, some sort of implicit indicator of the quality of the person putting forth the effort?
> Is a financial reward (or lack of such reward), in and of itself, some sort of implicit indicator of the quality of the person putting forth the effort? It is an implicit indicator of how much that person cares about the project.
I don't think we need to make a study of it to be sure that GitHub and Sourceforge are rife with free software ("free" in terms of beer, and in libre, and also in compensation) in various states of incompletion, haphazard execution, and sheer abandonment.
I mean: The open-source community has certainly produced a ton of excellent software for free, but it has also produced (and published) a lot of false starts, loose ends, broken or forgotten code, and unfinished or unpolished work.
Open-source volunteerism is awesome, but it isn't all ponies and rainbows.
Perhaps the author(s) of some of these things might care more about finishing and maintaining them if their ongoing efforts were producing a meaningful amount of money as a reward.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is a financial reward (or lack of such reward), in and of itself, some sort of implicit indicator of the quality of the person putting forth the effort? It is an implicit indicator of how much that person cares about the project.
Perhaps so. I don't think we need to make a study of it to be sure that GitHub and Sourceforge are rife with free software ("free" in terms of beer, and in libre , and also in compensation) in various states of incompletion, haphazard execution, and sheer abandonment. I mean: The open-source community has certainly produced a ton of excellent software for free, but it has also produced (and published) a lot of false…
Have you looked at the average state of commercial software lately?
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#65This is the best way to conclude a project like this, I wish more clear cut "this is the end" choices were made. An ecosystem with zombie projects isn't healthy.
Why? I wish people would put their projects in something like https://www.codeshelter.co so anyone who's interested can maintain them, instead of just killing them.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#66Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.
Eventually we ended up building a custom Raspberry Pi image.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are accidents on the highway, planes crash, fires in buildings, etc. Let's reason about Jia Tan - a problem, not a danger to all of FOSS - not, like everything else these days, just embrace ignorant fears. It's cool to destroy social trust, to deny it and abandon it. The counterargument is right in front of your nose - the incredible, infinite, world-changing world of FOSS. Think of all those amazing projects,…
This is not what I meant. But I prefer a fork of an abandoned project which needs to gain new trust to be installed instead of a new release pushed through an auto update after 3 years that installs malware. The parent comment was not about someone from the community taking over (which to be honest was the case in the xz story) but about posting the project on a „projects without maintenance“ site for any random pers…
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#68They learned a good lesson from the liblzma situation.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#69Anyone got a recommendation for a router with Wireguard support baked in? I've been running PiVPN on a separate box but since I need a new router anyways and it's not going to be supported, that might be a viable replacement.
Perhaps overkill but have been running this for many years with zero issues. It does everything though so configuration/setup can take a bit of time.
Re: PiVPN v4.6.0: The End
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps so. I don't think we need to make a study of it to be sure that GitHub and Sourceforge are rife with free software ("free" in terms of beer, and in libre , and also in compensation) in various states of incompletion, haphazard execution, and sheer abandonment. I mean: The open-source community has certainly produced a ton of excellent software for free, but it has also produced (and published) a lot of false…
> Perhaps the author(s) of some of these things might care more about finishing and maintaining them if their ongoing efforts were producing a meaningful amount of money as a reward. Have you looked at the average state of commercial software lately?
Does any of this somehow mean that a financial incentive must make free (beer and libre) software worse?
If so, why and how?
It does not to follow, for me, that rewarding software authors with money must make things worse.
I've personally put a fair amount of money into various tip jars for free software authors who create stuff that is important to me. There is no part of me that thinks that me doing this somehow disincentivizes them from continuing to do outstanding work.