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Recording police with your smartphone is a Constitutional right, says DoJ

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Re: Recording police with your smartphone is a Constitutional right, says DoJ

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Post by 13rules »

jasonlotito wrote: post #46
13rules wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"said I was prohibiting her from doing her job" Translation: You've done something that I don't like, but isn't illegal, so here's a trumped up charge so you have to spend the night in jail.

At the same time, shoving a camera into someones face could impact their ability to perform their job. In, fact, unless your job involves working with a camera, I imagine a camera in the face wouldn't help matters. Simply put, while I agree we should be able to records officers, I also believe that playing a game of "I'm not touching you" with a camera is out of place. Indeed, if your dealing with drunk people as a c…

At the same time, shoving a camera into someones face could impact their ability to perform their job.

Agreed - you should maintain your distance, but I've seen many videos on YouTube where the person videoing wasn't interfering at all and certainly wasn't "in their face", but the cops did not like being filmed and arrested the person. That is just not right.

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Post by powertower »

drumdance wrote: post #54
spindritf wrote: post #43

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There are a couple of legitimate reasons why police officers might not want to be recorded 8-12 hours a day. First is purely psychological. Would you want to have someone looking over your shoulder all the time? Would you want your employer to record everything you do on your computer through some spyware? Have a camera mounted above your head? Second is procedural. There are so many rules and regulations that it's a…

Would you want to have someone looking over your shoulder all the time? People who work in retail seem to be doing just fine, not to mention officers of the court who's every word and deed is recorded and transcribed.

Police work and retail work are not the same thing, not even close.

Nor is a highly dynamic and dangerous street environment, and a highly controlled and procedural court environment.

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Post by [deleted] »

rhizome wrote: post #60
spindritf wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a couple of legitimate reasons why police officers might not want to be recorded 8-12 hours a day. First is purely psychological. Would you want to have someone looking over your shoulder all the time? Would you want your employer to record everything you do on your computer through some spyware? Have a camera mounted above your head? Second is procedural. There are so many rules and regulations that it's a…

Just like anybody else who finds themselves working in distasteful environments, they can get another job.

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Post by sokoloff »

mikeash wrote: post #58
drumdance wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you want to have someone looking over your shoulder all the time? People who work in retail seem to be doing just fine, not to mention officers of the court who's every word and deed is recorded and transcribed.

Don't forget airline pilots. And call center employees. And.... Well, I think it's clear enough that people can manage to do their jobs while being constantly watched. I won't say it's necessarily a good idea, but if it's a good idea for anybody , then people who are legally empowered to use force to enforce the law ought to be at the top of the list.

Airline pilots have strict protections on how the cockpit voice recorder information can be used; it's only a 30-minute loop, etc. Hardly the same as having every working day recorded permanently...

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Post by leot »

carguy1983 wrote: post #20
cwp wrote: post #7

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Because people with that sort of power don't want an audit trail of their actions.

I think it's just technology adoption lag. Cruisers have had these cameras on their dashboards (dash cams) for a while now. At first with resistance but now it's saved more cops than burnt.

This is in part because cops (indeed, nearly everyone) behave better when their actions are recorded.

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Post by drumdance »

sokoloff wrote: post #64
mikeash wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget airline pilots. And call center employees. And.... Well, I think it's clear enough that people can manage to do their jobs while being constantly watched. I won't say it's necessarily a good idea, but if it's a good idea for anybody , then people who are legally empowered to use force to enforce the law ought to be at the top of the list.

Airline pilots have strict protections on how the cockpit voice recorder information can be used; it's only a 30-minute loop, etc. Hardly the same as having every working day recorded permanently...

Yeah, but pilots don't have the ability to put you in jail.
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