Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI • Hacker News Board

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by aidenn0 » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

lenerdenator wrote: post #42

SlightlyLeftPad wrote: post #33

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I, for one, would read the rest of this story.

For the rest of the tale, I recommend you follow the stock symbol "ORCL" on the NYSE. Rather curious that Mr. Ellison owns an island in a volcanic archipelago, isn't it?

Speaking of which, the one question I've always wanted to ask bcantrill is if he meant to say "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Oracle" when he said "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison."

On purpose or not it was a great sentence, but if it were premeditated, that only makes it better.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by chgs » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #45

thih9 wrote: post #26

Why are forced ads still a thing? When given choice, people escape them - via netflix or adblock. The same people spend their free time watching youtube reviews, chatting on gear forums, or recommending each other deals on social media; it looks like people genuinely want to learn about good and fairly priced products. I sincerely hope we’ll find a better way of reaching an audience than forced ads.

Ironically the fully skippable commercials on cable TV with a DVR are the best deal we can get anymore, anything in the streaming world can take control of the video stream away from you.

Piratebay still works right?

I just subscribe to paramount plus again to watch discovery. Seems perfectly reasonable, they give me a program I want (with no product placement from what I can gather - unlike the JJ Abram’s films with their “Budweiser classic”. I don’t think a self sealing stem boot counts), and I give them £8 a month. Everyone is happy.

However you try to double dip and I don’t give you a penny.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by oarsinsync » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:12 PM UTC

ForHackernews wrote: post #48

SenpaiSilver wrote: post #14

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I still hate that turning off one of my monitors moves the windows to the other still on monitor...

...that seems like a really good and intuitive feature. What would expect it to do instead? Close the window? Keep it on some invisible virtual desktop? (how large is the mysterious off-screen area in which windows can be lost?)

My laptop has a 15" 1080p panel. It's attached to 2x 32" 4K panels. When I'm done for the day, I turn the screens off.

When I come back the next day, all my windows are on the laptop onboard display, and if I'm lucky, resized in a way that makes them movable. If I'm unlucky, I need to close the application, re-open it, and hope it's back in a helpful way.

The 2x 4K panels show me my wallpaper every morning. They don't show me any windows that were on them.

"intuitive" is in the eye of the beholder.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by kobalsky » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:13 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #47

I refuse to connect my TV to WiFi. I used to use a Roku for all my streaming needs. But I switched to an AppleTV because the Roku apps started to suck and they got into selling data. It’s a dang shame that AppleTV is the only streaming box that doesn’t track what I watch to sell. But that seems to be the world we live in. Aside from being expensive it’s a great product and I definitely recommend it.

> I refuse to connect my TV to WiFi

we are one deal away from having TVs that autoconnect to xfinity hotspots / amazon sidewalk, to upload telemetry and download ads.

I can see people having to open their TVs to cut the wifi chipset's power/antenna in the future to avoid ads.

If this crap isn't stopped by law it will just keep escalating.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by chgs » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:14 PM UTC

fleshmonad wrote: post #12

You will rent "your" DRM protected PC, and we will inject Ads into your brain

Ads should only be on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written on the sky... But not in dreams.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by thomastjeffery » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:14 PM UTC

MenhirMike wrote: post #37

codetrotter wrote: post #11

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Thankfully we are not completely stuck with HDMI USB-C connectors using the DisplayPort protocol is the best of all worlds https://www.displayport.org/displayport-over-usb-c/

How many 65" Displays with Display Port are there? Also, don't nVidia GPUs only support the nearly 10 year old Display Port 1.4, which doesn't support variable refresh rates for high resolution/high framerate displays? Sure, buying an AMD GPU is a solution, if you don't mind worse drivers and higher power usage for less performance. (To be clear: I want HDMI to die, DisplayPort to win, and AMD to get their crap toget…

The ludicrous part is how many TVs display 4K@120, but can only input 2K@120 or 4K@60, just because they have exclusively HDMI 2.0 ports instead of including a DisplayPort 1.4 port.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by ChainOfFools » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:15 PM UTC

digging wrote: post #36

dreamcompiler wrote: post #28

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> Are you earning a living doing something you would be proud to tell your grandchildren about? No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren.

> No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren.

Still a drop in the bucket compared to the billionaires being minted semimonthly through combination lottery games, though at least in both cases not a cent of the fortunes being passed to grandchildren came from me.

actually you could argue that the people who did absolutely nothing for society in return for the assurance that none of their family will ever have to work at all, for the next three or four generations if not longer, have nonetheless contributed a net positive to society when compared with the apex parasites who actively work to degrade the quality of life of everyone else for their own gain.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:17 PM UTC

ARandomerDude wrote: post #29

Reason #27,621,938 to stop watching TV. The media creators hate you, the device manufacturers hate you, the streaming companies hate you. It’s amazing what hoops people are willing to jump through in order to poison their own minds.

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Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by MenhirMike » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

a_t48 wrote: post #58

MenhirMike wrote: post #37

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How many 65" Displays with Display Port are there? Also, don't nVidia GPUs only support the nearly 10 year old Display Port 1.4, which doesn't support variable refresh rates for high resolution/high framerate displays? Sure, buying an AMD GPU is a solution, if you don't mind worse drivers and higher power usage for less performance. (To be clear: I want HDMI to die, DisplayPort to win, and AMD to get their crap toget…

It looks like the 50 series will support it

Hallelujah!

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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Post by tuhriel » Thu, Apr 04, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

nineteen999 wrote: post #60

chgs wrote: post #56

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Nobody want to see adverts, yet it’s one of the largest industries on the planet. Anyone who doesn’t do everything in their power to avoid adverts is part of the problem.

> Anyone who doesn’t do everything in their power to avoid adverts is part of the problem. Says everybody until they are wanting to advertise their own product.

I'm still not sure the excessive 15x same advert method increases your chances.