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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany
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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany
#62Consumption of all drugs is legal in Germany. The problem is buying/selling/production, as well as simple possession. I think this is the case in most countries.
You're probably right that it's the case in most countries, but an interesting counterexample is Sweden, where testing positive on a drug test is a criminal offence. Police can arrest you for appearing to be under the influence of drugs, and if they find any traces in a urine test, they'll fine you for it. I hope that legalization in Germany will lead to more sane laws in Sweden, but honestly, I'm not holding my brea…
How about the other Scandinavian countries?
Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany
#63Consumption of all drugs is legal in Germany. The problem is buying/selling/production, as well as simple possession. I think this is the case in most countries.
You're probably right that it's the case in most countries, but an interesting counterexample is Sweden, where testing positive on a drug test is a criminal offence. Police can arrest you for appearing to be under the influence of drugs, and if they find any traces in a urine test, they'll fine you for it. I hope that legalization in Germany will lead to more sane laws in Sweden, but honestly, I'm not holding my brea…
And if you were behind the wheel, you will be sentenced for driving under influence. Even if it has been days since you smoked a joint.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nearly any amount of intoxication is vaguely illegal under disorderly conduct. It’s a catch all they can apply whenever. Fighting it and winning still costs time and money. So sure, the act of consuming might be legal, but having consumed isn’t.
>Nearly any amount of intoxication is vaguely illegal under disorderly conduct. Isn't that limited to public spaces? If you're getting high in private you should be fine?
As I understand it, the issue is only about showing up to work with any level of drugs in your system, even if there aren't any actual signs of you being intoxicated.
Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany
#65I believe that overall the decision is a good one, there are no real good reasons why cannabis should be prohibited.
At the same time, I strongly hope that the cannabis smokers will be considerate of the people around them. It is quite a foul smell if you are not partaking yourself.
Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're probably right that it's the case in most countries, but an interesting counterexample is Sweden, where testing positive on a drug test is a criminal offence. Police can arrest you for appearing to be under the influence of drugs, and if they find any traces in a urine test, they'll fine you for it. I hope that legalization in Germany will lead to more sane laws in Sweden, but honestly, I'm not holding my brea…
I saw a man get hassled by Swedish police on a train just after crossing the Øresund Bridge. "The dog is very interested in your bag", they said. The man admitted that maybe he had smoked marijuana in Copenhagen and they left him alone. I'm sure selective enforcement is at play, but at least in my experience they didn't care.
That is not the norm. You won't get charged for smoking in Copenhagen, but it will put you in a high risk category for smuggling so their typical response here is to search you. They were probably under a high workload and had to prioritize heavily.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
We live in a society.
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That's literally what the German government is doing. They are giving you back the choice, without the threat of punishment.
I get that you're an anarchist or whatever, but repealing prohibition laws shouldn't be something you argue against just because you disagree with the concept of laws as a whole.
That said, if you think that a lawless society would afford you any freedom, you are entirely mistaken.
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Imagine wanting people criminally charged over a smell.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think most people are moving to vaping, which produced much, much less smell. Plus, vapour doesn't "stick" to things and make them smell forever more like smoke does. Also, edibles are really popular these days.
downside is, that people seem to think it's not smoking and start vaping inside. disgusting.
I'd be opposed to legislating against anything just for being "disgusting"; there should be a stronger reason for us to limit each other's personal freedoms. In the specific case of vaping,I understand that secondhand "smoking" is still in issue, so that's the reason to legislate restrictions.
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What did they legalize now, then?
Essentially: Production and trade under very strict restriction in so-called cannabis clubs. Trade as a non-narcotic medication in pharmacies, restricted to prescriptions. Production at home, with very strict limits towards quantity of plants and size of harvest. Possession of limited amounts of cannabis and thus public consumption with restrictions regarding proximity to institutions for children.
It should be noted that a lot of things are still illegal and are being worked on. Two examples:
You are not allowed to share cannabis.
The amount of THC in your blood that would make it illegal to drive is 1 ng/mL blood serum. This is essentially nothing and can, anecdotally, be triggered by losing weight after consuming.