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Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

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Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

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post #5

From YouTube comments, it seems was an experiment of 2023 with video only uploaded now. It also looks like was not that successful, as they were too slow, and ended up causing problems for the meat based drivers...

From one comment. Not comments. The rest of the pessimistic comments, like yours, are from a position lacking any experience of this vehicle.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#62
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Partly, that's because the luggage processing is very slow on international flights at Dulles. You have to go through immigration, which can be time consuming (though the automated ones are better of late). There's no reason you should get to baggage claim ahead of the baggage. Aside from that, though... I think it's just that it feels like an additional step. You want to get going -- especially if you're the sort of…

> They were a clever idea at the time, but they're hardly "lounges" these days. They're just buses, at a time when you really, really don't want to be taking a bus. Yeah they're definitely just buses that can open on each end at this point. They aspired to be lounges and they kind of convey (ha) what could have been. An actual automated mobile lounge isn't that crazy, right? Automation+batter power does make it more…

You don't really want to be in a lounge at all after getting off, you just want to get where you're going. That's why most airports have lounges in departures but not in arrivals. A lounge that you could wait in until boarding time and have it pull up to your plane then might be nice, but with today's "security" procedures you'd need to have all of that built into the mobile section as well, which seems difficult.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#63

>> to investigate what the advantages of autonomous transport can be and what employees think of it. Lets not kid ourselves. The only real "advantage" would have been one less driver earning a paycheck. I've been on the airside passenger busses at Schipol. They move faster than the average bus. I cannot see this tiny thing ever competing with those pro drivers.

Yes they are among the fastest buses I've ever been on. They drive like they are on a race track.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

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post #61
post #5

From YouTube comments, it seems was an experiment of 2023 with video only uploaded now. It also looks like was not that successful, as they were too slow, and ended up causing problems for the meat based drivers...

From one comment. Not comments. The rest of the pessimistic comments, like yours, are from a position lacking any experience of this vehicle.

Dont blame the messenger. Why don't you fill us in on the project status?

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#66

>> to investigate what the advantages of autonomous transport can be and what employees think of it. Lets not kid ourselves. The only real "advantage" would have been one less driver earning a paycheck. I've been on the airside passenger busses at Schipol. They move faster than the average bus. I cannot see this tiny thing ever competing with those pro drivers.

Availability outside hours where it's not currently feasible to have a driver. Immunity to strikes, illness, and all those pesky complexities with meat and flesh

Complex human flesh is the point of all this stuff we make and do, maybe we shouldn’t put all that meat out of a job for no good economic reason? Busses, trains, ships, etc don’t need to be automated, one or a few professional humans can operate those cheaper and safer than an advanced AI system.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#67
post #64
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From one comment. Not comments. The rest of the pessimistic comments, like yours, are from a position lacking any experience of this vehicle.

Dont blame the messenger. Why don't you fill us in on the project status?

I don't comment on things where I don't have a qualified opinion.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#68
post #64
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From one comment. Not comments. The rest of the pessimistic comments, like yours, are from a position lacking any experience of this vehicle.

Dont blame the messenger. Why don't you fill us in on the project status?

I will say, like the anonymous commenter you are paraphrasing, I have encountered many "meat-based" drivers who are frustrated with how the autonomous vehicle under my supervision is travelling at the posted speed limit, rather than illegally enabling them to save neurotic seconds on their drive.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#69
post #4

Self driving is a bit of a stretch here. There are already a lot locations around the world where autonomous vehicles are driving, even in the Nederlands. For example in the Netherlands there is a container terminal that has been using autonomous trucks for decades. And since 1999 there have been autonomous busses in Rotterdam. Yes they are self driving, but not as smart as self driving means today.

Self-driving in ports is a vastly simpler problem though because the environment can be closed and controlled and devoid of any UX concerns, making it basically a simple robotics problem.

Re: Schiphol conducts trial with self-driving buses on airside

#70

Any chance we can get the title modified to read "Schiphol airport ..." as many won't know if this is a company, a town, or what until paragraph 4 of the press release?

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Ah come on this attitude doesn't belong here.
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