Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview

Post by jpetrantoni1 » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 12:00 AM UTC

zachbee wrote: post #21

From a technical perspective, moving a mouse with your mind isn't entirely new: https://elifesciences.org/articles/18554 Personally, I think the most exciting part of Neuralink and other companies working on BCIs is the fact that they're trying to keep these implants in long-term, and scale the deployment significantly. Most academic BCI research thus far has just been trials, without patients getting to keep the imp…

Post by 0x64 » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 12:03 AM UTC

ShamelessC wrote: post #49

ein0p wrote: post #45

The inspiration for this (as well as for SpaceX) comes from the “Culture” series of novels by Iain M. Banks, which most people are apparently unfamiliar with. Specifically the BCI interface is called “neural lace” there and it grows along with the brain from a seed and covers its entire surface. There it serves as an interface to access superhuman AIs and information in general, on demand, and only the hopeless luddi…

Sorry but surely the idea of having a brain computer interface predates the Culture novels by many decades. Similarly, how are these books the inspiration for SpaceX? Those ideas of traveling the stars (well, planets) _absolutely_ predate the culture series. Seems pretty obvious to me that these ideas originated long ago in the scientific world and were (beautifully) expanded upon by science fiction authors (again, m…

Post by wilg » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 12:04 AM UTC

samatman wrote: post #40

wilg wrote: post #32

A key differentiator of Neuralink is that the implant can both read and write through ~1000 channels (each of which is a tiny wire into the brain). So it's not really the same thing as external devices that read electrical activity from outside the brain, because those cannot write data. Not sure if the initial implant supports much of this, obviously you'd start with the simplest use cases.

Which is why I will never get anything like that installed unless I'm paralyzed or effectively so. Humans have no mechanism for recognizing that a sensation, thought, or emotion, which arises within themselves, is actually inserted by malware. No thanks.

Post by maximus-decimus » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 12:07 AM UTC

sambroner wrote: post #3

hablary wrote: post #2

That's pretty amazing, the fact he's able to click the pause button with his brain alone is insane to me - that's like Apple Vision Pro without the gigantic goggles.

This is a good point. Seems like a likely candidate for an S curve in tech development. i.e. next 15 years of VR are improvements to camera, display, and tracking technology. Following 15 years are brain implants.

Post by ShamelessC » Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 12:16 AM UTC

ein0p wrote: post #66

ShamelessC wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but surely the idea of having a brain computer interface predates the Culture novels by many decades. Similarly, how are these books the inspiration for SpaceX? Those ideas of traveling the stars (well, planets) _absolutely_ predate the culture series. Seems pretty obvious to me that these ideas originated long ago in the scientific world and were (beautifully) expanded upon by science fiction authors (again, m…

Not the idea itself, but this specific implementation. Musk has clearly read quite a bit of Banks and Heinlein.