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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by edgyquant »

numbsafari wrote: post #51
setgree wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's a deep voice? Still, I am surprised by how professional this sounds -- beat drops, fade ins and fade outs...I can record music on GarageBand but I have no idea how to do any of that. > AI takin' over, breakin' the mold > The game's been changed, no human control Oh no!!!

It’s also very much not 90s or hip-hop

Yeah I noticed this too. I spent a lot of credits trying to get a song to sound like early black flag, even outright saying an 80s hardcore punk band with rough male vocals and a fast paced beat, and it only ever sounded like a 90s pop punk bank eg blink 182.

Had a similar issue trying to create a reggae song that sounds like the Maytals, every song either sounded like a female hip hop artist or rebelution.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by joshstrange »

cdme wrote: post #22

Couldn’t be less interested — art is interesting for its human qualities. This is pointless dreck.

You don’t see any value in someone who can do part of writing music/lyrics, but not all of it, using this tool to complete the aspect that they’re not skilled at?

I mean that’s where AI shines for me, letting 1 person (or few people) accomplish what would have required teams of skilled people to do. It’s the same story with tech in general. I write code that runs on web/android/iOS that has processed over a half a million dollars through it as a single-person company. That was all pre-AI, my point being that technology and the tools it produces allow us to do amazing things. I see AI as only furthering that.

Now I can create custom sounds using AI, let AI help with marketing copy that I’m not good at, have it generate cartoon/simple pictures to explain a process for my software, etc. A world limited not by my skillset but by my imagination.

I know people hate electron apps but the alternative is often no app (not a native app), in the same vein tools like this will allow people who can write lyrics but not music to share their songs. It won’t be for everyone but there is value in it.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by exogeny »

isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

That's great except for the 90s, hip-hop, male, and deep prompts!

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by edgyquant »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #44
lambdas wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs I’d never considered how the inevitable dystopia would sound, and it’s worse than I ever dared to fear

There is no area of human creativity safe from hyper-commoditisation by ML models.

The ML models are a symptom of an already hyper-commoditized world where all the soul and human condition has been sucked out of every instance of creativity. AI is just letting us see it from a distance

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by rauljordan2020 »

cdme wrote: post #22

Couldn’t be less interested — art is interesting for its human qualities. This is pointless dreck.

Except that if I heard this on the radio or in my music streaming recommendations I’d think it’s a banger and would be jamming to it all day. A song I heard from the site earlier blew my mind and my friends were asking me who the artist was. The lines are more blurry than we think. The song made my day and made me emotional and that’s enough for me

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by chefandy »

TZubiri wrote: post #21
bangaroo wrote: post #19

i threw $10 into it to play with the new V3 algorithm much like dall-e it's wildly impressive at first glance and the more you bang your head against it, the more the cracks show it's very repetitive, doesn't often fit lyrics properly into bars, song structure often makes very little sense, the list goes on it is simultaneously very cool and incapable of accomplishing its goal reliably.

It's also a prototype, you are numb and spoiled by the speed of technological advancements. Like with good art, you need to learn how to appreciate it, see it not for whether it can be useful to you for 10$, but for what it can be in the future with a cost structure so cheap they can afford to run it on 10$ subscriptions.

> It's also a prototype, you are numb and spoiled by the speed of technological advancements.

> Like with good art, you need to learn how to appreciate it, see it not for whether it can be useful to you for 10$, but for what it can be in the future with a cost structure so cheap they can afford to run it on 10$ subscriptions.

Nonsense. This isn't a university research team or a FOSS project-- it's a commercial art product and the gee whiz factor doesn't put it beyond critique of its artistic merit. The person being disappointed for what they got for $10 is a whole lot less spoiled than the tech industry that feels entitled to charge people money for a product and only expect positive feedback. If you want to buy this because of the novelty factor, go nuts; other people need to see if products are useful to them before they buy things, and other people's experiences are the primary way we determine that.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by MrScruff »

lambdas wrote: post #35
Solvency wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just launched and in 5 years it's going to be better than Sora is at making videos. In the meantime, thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs and rake in $$$ because they'll use it like the genius tool that it is.

>thousands to millions of writers/producers are going to use this to rapidly block out pop songs I’d never considered how the inevitable dystopia would sound, and it’s worse than I ever dared to fear

Alternatively, you could argue that the vast majority of released music is already unimaginative rubbish. Industrialising the creation of more of it will make releasing this type of material completely pointless, so perhaps there will be more of a focus on finding original music to cut through the grey goo?

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by dilap »

eman2d wrote: post #39

"OpenAI faces multiple lawsuits over ChatGPT’s use of books, news articles, and other copyrighted material in its vast corpus of training data. Suno’s founders decline to reveal details of just what data they’re shoveling into their own model, other than the fact that its ability to generate convincing human vocals comes in part because it’s learning from recordings of speech, in addition to music." Surely they own t…

Specifics of the law aside, it seems quite unfair to not allow AI to learn from copyrighted examples. Imagine an aspiring human musician not being allowed to listen to copyrighted music for inspiration!

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by Pine_Mushroom »

Jensson wrote: post #37
elif wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

suno v3 actually generates some really good music. most genres are more formulaic than people want to believe.

> most genres are more formulaic than people want to believe. The biggest crime is copyrighting the best intro chord sequences in the 1960's, and since then everyone has to make slight variations or they would be called out for copying. We can't make good music today due to copyrights...

Chord sequences are not subject to copyright.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Post by mikae1 »

kmbfjr wrote: post #58
isusmelj wrote: post #38

This is really cool. Song: https://app.suno.ai/song/83680b6f-db37-44de-adf9-3f7fff6b79d... Prompt: A 90s hip-hop song with a male singer with a deep voice singing about how AI models are creating new songs after being trained on all the data of artists. Talks about AI models are stealing the show. Lyrics: [Verse] Step back, my friend, 'cause the future's here AI models spittin' rhymes, oh so clear (oh so clear) Train…

Oh my, it sounds like nearly every other pop artist complete with whisper mumbles, edgy manufactured vocal tics and devoid of melody. It nailed contemporary music.

Too bad isusmelj didn't prompt for that.
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