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Beeper at least has source code for the bridges, which you can have some hope is the same code that they run and that they don't get court orders to look at the messages. If they ever chose to implement remote attestation for bridges, and you chose to use an open source matrix client to control your local keys, there is at least a potential path for you to prove they can't look at messages so you don't have to trust…
Our code isn't open source but when you are using Texts, you are self-hosting it. It runs completely on your device!
New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
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Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
#62I've been on the wait-list for at least a year I think? "Open beta test" plus a wait-list is quite weird.
I'm happy to pay it forward, the only caveat is that I think the referral code has to be sent via a chat method that beeper supports. Feel free to email me (HN username @ big G's mail service) with a GChat/WhatsApp/SMS address.
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
#63Interesting! Anyone here remember Pidgin? It was such a fantastic app for chatting with friends on AIM, MSN, ICQ, gchat (XMPP), and IRC all from one interface. It even had an "off the record" (OTR) plugin that was an early example of end-to-end encryption. It was a good illustration of how an open source app could surpass all the proprietary alternatives because it wasn't subject to the same incentives as a commercia…
Remember? Pidgin is still a core piece of infrastructure in our company's managed services platform, and not for lack of interest "upgrading" but because it's just exactly the right tool for the job for certain kinds of internal company messaging, with self-hosted XMPP. Completely defining your own secure perimeter by self hosting everything possible makes for extremely perfunctory audits by regulatory bodies for the…
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
#64I currently use through it: Telegram, WhatsApp, RCS (Android Messages), Signal.
Beeper is built on Matrix and their client is based on Element but I would say the experience is slightly better than native; for example I prefer how client verification works in Beeper over vanilla Element.
Congrats on the open beta!
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
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That's exactly what our bridge-manager repo allows you to do. Self-host the bridges yourself, use the Beeper client app.
What I'd really like to do (and the poster you responded to) is to connect your app to my own self-hosted matrix-server.
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
#67I want to try it, but I don't want to become dependent on it if it will transition to a paid product in the future (It's cool, but I probably wouldn't pay for it). How long will it remain free to use?
I would gladly pay a few bucks a month for such product. It solves a real problem
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
#68How does beeper work? Do I have to give beeper full access to all the different accounts I use for messaging?
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I really hope it will be possible to configure the Beeper app to use self-hosted bridges vs using a separate Matrix client. Having the features and polish of the first party app, but with a user-controlled backend (like how Bitwarden does it) would be great. BTW, I have a Pebble on my wrist right now :)
That's exactly what our bridge-manager repo allows you to do. Self-host the bridges yourself, use the Beeper client app.
Re: New Beeper Android app – Open beta test
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I would gladly pay a few bucks a month for such product. It solves a real problem
Beeper is already a paid product at $10 per month, see beeper.com