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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by yifanl »

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about.

I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing.

Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched it stop caring about building airplanes. I know that can take a toll, and the stress of martyring yourself to let everyone else know has to be intense.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by hatenberg »

esoterica wrote: post #40
Qem wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co .

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The CEO of eBay did not order dead animals, feces and death threats to be sent to critical customers either.

Why would they? The entire point of that level in a company is to be not accountable - the best way to achieve that is by doing nothing …

The point being?

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by jongjong »

jjk166 wrote: post #9
torstenvl wrote: post #4

"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

Self inflicted wound in the middle of several days of scheduled depositions. Just about as suspicious as could be.

Agreed. This has red flags all over it.

I've been predicting that companies would turn into criminal gangs sooner or later. Corporations can be shielded from liability when this happens. One executive could end up charged with a crime but the company itself can always paint them as a rogue agent who acted independently.

IMO, this will keep getting worse. Commodification of scapegoats.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by robjan »

torstenvl wrote: post #4

"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

In the UK press reporting standards discourage reporting suicide methods https://www.ipso.co.uk/editors-code-of-practice/

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by redeeman »

bandyaboot wrote: post #15
Bender wrote: post #11

I hope the company had no involvement in this. It would be bit futile given such a large audience has seen their employees state they won't fly in the aircraft they build. [1] 3,716,935 views 4 days ago and Blancolirio's assorted incident reports [2] [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oCilY4szc [video][32 mins][john oliver] [2] - https://www.youtube.com/@blancolirio/search?query=boeing

Yeah, doing something so drastic in this situation doesn’t make sense. It’s possible that reality is somewhere in the middle. I have a very difficult time believing they would actually off the guy, but it’s not so difficult to believe they might hire some investigators to look for skeletons in his closet. Perhaps they found some. Obviously this is wild speculation and not intended to be a theory—just an example of so…

some people kill others because they run out of nutella, some kill others to rob $10 from their pockets, some kill them for fun, but its difficult to believe a giant corporation with A LOT to hide would kill a whistleblower?

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

yifanl wrote: post #61

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about. I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched…

And he not only watched the company fail spectacularly, in several of those cases those failures were connected to deaths, which I imagine he could feel personally responsible for not preventing, even if the corporate machine is really where the responsibility lies.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

falsandtru wrote: post #38

Is the political safety of the United States on the same level as that of Russia?

No, even if this were murder.

If the people investigating Hunter Biden suddenly turned up dead, or the people investigating Trump, and if that happened over and over across several years, then I'd say yes. Oh, and if you could be arrested for a protest.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by dredds »

torstenvl wrote: post #52
dredds wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. A YT video speculated (wildly one would say) about someone's recent death simply because the cause was not announced by the family as it was under (UK) inquest. In some jurisdictions it is inappropriate (or even illegal) to state or speculate on a cause of death when it is under investigation as a suspected suicide, even just to limit the poss…

No. NZ law is completely irrelevant to a UK news source's reporting on a U.S. death. And the source is the man's attorney. https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/boeing-whist...

It's a code of conduct of UK reporting even if it occurs outside the UK: "the UK press reporting standards discourage reporting suicide methods"
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