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Intel Gaudi2 chips outperform Nvidia H100 on diffusion transformers

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Re: Intel Gaudi2 chips outperform Nvidia H100 on diffusion transformers

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I can feel the NVDA stock slipping as we speak… It has been amazing watching the groupthink at work on that stock when we just saw the same group do it on TSLA to disastrous effect. A similar no moat situation where they simply can’t imagine competitors ever existing.

The Model Y is the best selling car in the world in 2023. Those of us who were buying in 2019 are still up quite a bit even though the stock was higher at one point. RIVN, Ford, GM all are losing a lot of money on every EV they sell. We were right to bet on TSLA being a major winner. I actually put 40% of my TSLA into NVDA last year, because the demand for AI hardware is going to keep going up. I'm not saying the sto…

> The Model Y is the best selling

other manufacturers ship dozens of different models and then you have companies like VW or Stellantis that havd many different brands that basically sell the same model with slightly different chassis, styling etc. so it’s hardly comparable.

An anyway, as far as valuations go margins are as or even way more important than total numbers of cars shipped. Tesla had to cut prices and that didn’t work out that great for their stock price

> volatility with long term technologic transformations.

Intel’s stock peaked in 2000 despite most of the related technologic transformations happening in the subsequent decades, them basically becoming a monopoly and their revenue increasing multiple times.

Re: Intel Gaudi2 chips outperform Nvidia H100 on diffusion transformers

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can feel the NVDA stock slipping as we speak… It has been amazing watching the groupthink at work on that stock when we just saw the same group do it on TSLA to disastrous effect. A similar no moat situation where they simply can’t imagine competitors ever existing.

It's a great company & will do well, plenty of demand & B100s/BH200s etc coming The Hopper stuff is particulalry interesting

They of course will likely do great, that doesn’t mean their stock price can’t be massively inflated. current valuation is pricing in both massive growth and insane (understatement) margins. Which basically means that they are expected to have no actual competition for years. That’s bot impossible but surely Intel/AMD can’t be this incompetent when there are piles of money just there for the taking.

Re: Intel Gaudi2 chips outperform Nvidia H100 on diffusion transformers

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H100 was released almost exactly 1 year ago so I guess it's ok if Intel is now ready to compete with last year's model. To those commenting about "no moat" remember CUDA is a huge part of it, it's actually HW+SW and both took a decade to mature, together

The fact that AMD's GPGPU platform is buggy for consumers has more to do with incompetence and product cannibalisation than the difficulty of building properly working drivers. Machine learning uses profoundly simple operations. Building a pytorch backend isn't difficult if the drivers are working properly.
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