But all iPhones of the same model have the same processor. Every iPhone 15 Pro Max, of which Apple sells hundreds of millions, all have the same processor. Why do they have different results?
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Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
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Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://wavacity.com/ ?
Audacity's an awesome piece of software that I've used many times. Never once have I thought "by golly this thing should be a website, and my web browser should be made to expose an audio graph API to every website I visit to that it can be so!"
We'll make sure we stop building software you could imagine then. /s
There's value here. Other people are allowed to want more than you want.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://wavacity.com/ ?
Audacity's an awesome piece of software that I've used many times. Never once have I thought "by golly this thing should be a website, and my web browser should be made to expose an audio graph API to every website I visit to that it can be so!"
Get with the times. Your privacy must be sacrificed so some random web app you have never heard of can do something no website should be able to do at all. Or maybe that’s just a pretense and not the real reason Google keeps adding all these APIs. People seem to forget that ChromeOS is literally Google trying to turn every computer into a thin client for their services.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#64Does disabling web audio beat this fingerprinting?
I always assume that any difficult/annoying anti-fingerprint techniques make you more identifiable instead of less, since very few people do them.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#65But all iPhones of the same model have the same processor. Every iPhone 15 Pro Max, of which Apple sells hundreds of millions, all have the same processor. Why do they have different results?
Buy the same CPU 10 times and benchmark them, they all score differently.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may be thinking of https://www.amiunique.org/fingerprint
Not the one I used, but this one actually looks better. Just being Linux + Firefox is terrible for blending into the herd. Let alone everything else that leaks (having a desktop + GPU + good monitor basically destroys all remaining hope).
Probably was EFF's panopticlick, which has evolved into https://coveryourtracks.eff.org
The about page has some history https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/about
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#67Why am I supposed to want any website I visit to be able to render audio offline anyway?
There’s a push to make every single last thing a normal application can do, available to web apps through some half-standardized JavaScript API or another. Generally google comes up with use cases, implements it in chrome, and tries to call it a standard. Then everyone complains when Apple doesn’t implement these standards fast enough, and that Safari is “holding back the web” or “the new IE” because it’s not keeping…
I think fewer people would be in favor of this if apple just let you download native apps and run them on your iPhone like any other computing device.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#68Did I read this correctly and audio fingerprinting is mainly about identifiying the used browser version and OS or laptop, but it cant identify end-users in a stable way?
Yeah, it doesn't tell a website who you are. Instead, it allows them to recognize you again when you come back to visit again, even if you clear cookies. This is particularly a problem with big advertiser networks because they can track you across many sites you visit, even if you disable third-party cookies. It has positive uses too, like preventing click fraud and concert ticket arbitrage.
>Instead, it allows them to recognize you again when you come back to visit again, even if you clear cookies.
I don't think that's what stockhorn said. stockhorn said it can only identify a what browser and OS and laptop model you're using. Someone else with the same browser, OS, and laptop model would have the same fingerprint. So audio fingerprinting couldn't precisely recognize you again when you come back again.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#69But all iPhones of the same model have the same processor. Every iPhone 15 Pro Max, of which Apple sells hundreds of millions, all have the same processor. Why do they have different results?
They don’t. If you read this post carefully, it just claims to be able to tell Intel Macs from ARM Macs. It can also distinguish from older Safari versions that don’t have the fingerprinting protection.
Re: Bypassing Safari 17's advanced audio fingerprinting protection
#70It seems like rather than adding a random amount to each sample (which lets them compute a mean by recreating the same audio and extracting out the differences), Safari could instead add randomness that is based on a key that rotates every hour. (Function of audio sample and key, so the noise would be the same in a given session, but useless for tracking an hour later).