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Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by Zigurd »

MBCook wrote: post #7

I would think this is most likely a failure by the maintenance department and not Boeing themselves but wow do they not need to be in headlines again.

If it is a maintenance failure, it's a really big one. You would have to change the tire (really the whole wheel) before this flight, not put the wheel nut on, and not put the wheel nut lock on, and close the wheel nut cover without having done that, probably with a second person there, and have the wheel somehow stay on while taxiing. I think I see the brakes still on the axle in the video, so I suppose this is what happened.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by hnburnsy »

nunez wrote: post #60
Atotalnoob wrote: post #34

I have a flight coming up on United’s 777s out of SFO…. Fantastic

Don't fret. You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen. Boeing is under serious fire largely because of four (extremely terrible) accidents. Hundreds of thousands of planes fly every day. Source: I fly 100k+ miles per year for work and leisure.

>You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen

I can't tell if you are serious, but I count 7 commercial aviation accidents in the past week...

https://avherald.com/

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by mjcl »

kaycebasques wrote: post #22

I'm curious what the pilot's experience was like. Do I get a notification right away that a wheel fell off or was it a radio call from air traffic control? While I'm in flight, do I have a little camera or something where I can see the wheels? Because there's no way to actually go look at them when they're tucked away and you're flying, right? In other words how did they determine that they should still attempt a nor…

Someone has already stitched together the ATC/plane radio traffic[1], it sounds like the pilots on the plane initially had no idea. Oakland departure had to tell the pilots that people on the ground saw something falling off the plane.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeGo79nRMwU

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by Cacti »

hnburnsy wrote: post #62
nunez wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't fret. You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen. Boeing is under serious fire largely because of four (extremely terrible) accidents. Hundreds of thousands of planes fly every day. Source: I fly 100k+ miles per year for work and leisure.

>You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen I can't tell if you are serious, but I count 7 commercial aviation accidents in the past week... https://avherald.com/

Think about doing an investigation and writeup for every dent and fender bender in the nation, in addition to the major accidents. That’s essentially what you’re looking at, but for aircraft. Across the world, and all the millions of people and ways in which all types of aircraft are used, big, small, old, young, immaculately maintained, beat to shit, etc.

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by klyrs »

xdennis wrote: post #47
zerocrates wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow the "anti-DEI" people really latched on to Boeing. Not just Boeing themselves but also pilots for some reason... maybe spurred on by the fact that the pilots of the Alaska flight were both women? Not that the pilots did anything wrong in that incident, of course. I can't really tell if the fact that Elon's been very active in this... let's call it "discourse," is a cause or symptom of it being so oddly widesp…

The left and the right live in completely separate bubbles. You may not be aware of this story, but the right is. See https://www.faa.gov/pwdp . The Federal Aviation Administration has set a target of hiring people with "severe intellectual disability". > The Secretary of Transportation has set a hiring goal of three (3) percent per fiscal year for individuals with targeted (severe) disabilities. > Targeted disabilit…

You're wrong about the left and right being in bubbles. I read commentary, thinkpieces, and yellow rubbish from both. This isn't the first time I've seen mention of that hiring goal, but I will note that comments like yours are typically the setup for a motte & bailey. But let's assume good faith.

Tell me. Of the targeted disabilities you have listed, which do you think employers should discriminate against, when it does not interfere with a qualified candidate's bona fide job requirements?

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by [deleted] »

hnburnsy wrote: post #62
nunez wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't fret. You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen. Boeing is under serious fire largely because of four (extremely terrible) accidents. Hundreds of thousands of planes fly every day. Source: I fly 100k+ miles per year for work and leisure.

>You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen I can't tell if you are serious, but I count 7 commercial aviation accidents in the past week... https://avherald.com/

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Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by hnburnsy »

Cacti wrote: post #64
hnburnsy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You're hearing about this because aviation accidents _don't_ happen I can't tell if you are serious, but I count 7 commercial aviation accidents in the past week... https://avherald.com/

Think about doing an investigation and writeup for every dent and fender bender in the nation, in addition to the major accidents. That’s essentially what you’re looking at, but for aircraft. Across the world, and all the millions of people and ways in which all types of aircraft are used, big, small, old, young, immaculately maintained, beat to shit, etc.

AV Herald FAQ...

Q: What incidents and accidents does The Aviation Herald report?

The Aviation Herald concentrates on "Air Transport", meaning in general The Aviation Herald will report only about commercial flights or commercial operators involving airplanes with capacity for 19 passenger seats or more. Incidents will be reported only during active flights from entering the takeoff runway to leaving the landing runway, other incidents at the gate or during taxi are summarily dismissed. Accidents involving commercial flights with capacity of 19 or more seats are reported as soon as The Aviation Herald gets to know about them.

Q: What do the classifications Crash, Accident, Incident, News or Report mean?

Report indicates an articles about the release and contents of an official incident or accident investigation report, both preliminary and final, where The Aviation Herald did not report the original event. If The Aviation Herald did report the original event, the original article (series) will be updated and the investigation reports mentioned and linked in there. News indicates an article about commercial aviation events, that are not related to an occurrence (incident, accident, crash) or an active flight (a flight is active from entering its takeoff runway to leaving its landing runway). Incident marks any safety relevant event out of the ordinary during flight (from the first human with the intention to fly boarding the aircraft to last human with intention to fly leaving the aircraft), that causes no injuries or death to any people and causes only limited damage (exception: the engines of an aircraft may suffer even catastrophic damage in an incident). Accident marks an incident, that has caused injuries or death to humans or caused significant damage. Crash marks an accident, that is potentially catastrophic (has the potential to kill everybody on board of an airplane).

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

kaycebasques wrote: post #22

I'm curious what the pilot's experience was like. Do I get a notification right away that a wheel fell off or was it a radio call from air traffic control? While I'm in flight, do I have a little camera or something where I can see the wheels? Because there's no way to actually go look at them when they're tucked away and you're flying, right? In other words how did they determine that they should still attempt a nor…

there are dedicated LEDs in the main panel for each wheel indicating if it fell off

Re: Boeing 777 loses tire while taking off from SF, crushing cars on the ground

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Post by krapp »

2-718-281-828 wrote: post #69

i'm wondering what platform could presently take twitter's place for publishing news like this? twitter gets a lot of flak here for political reasons. but it seems it nonetheless serves a societal purpose.

Twitter is a content aggregator. It doesn't publish news. The Twitter post links to the site "unusual whales" which provides an incomplete text of the story which you can find verbatim on numerous news sites, likely aggregated into numerous other news feeds, any of which could serve as a more authoritative source.

There is no unique value-add from Twitter in this case, except to push the visibility of some random crypto news site.

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