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WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
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Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
#62Is Signal one of the other platforms they mention?
I think they mention every platform for marketing because once the device is rooted, they can extract data from any app. That doesn’t mean the vulnerability was in the app mentioned, nor that it was the fault of an app at all. At the end of the day, it’s between platforms (specifically iOS and Apple) and these exploit devs/traders, afaiu. That’s why Apple hates them. For better or worse, putting a torch under Apple’s…
> than to scrape the floor for peanuts in hope that mega corps will reward their discoveries.
Security researchers capable of finding these exploits aren't exactly starving for food. They could easily land a $500k+ job at any big tech company or make a similar amount bug bounty hunting.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I couldn't care less if there's a group of people misusing the phrase, logically "I could care less" means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less". The majority of the world is not American, and presumably the majority of Americans don't use the incorrect phrase, so why should the rest of the world cater for a minority within a minority by putting their butchered phrase on equal footing with the correct phrase?
Because you knew what they meant and trying to correct them only serves to make you feel good about your own knowledge. You aren't helping anyone when you correct them on this.
If you understood someone with difficulty, offering a correction is constructive, particularly on the web where editing is often easy.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the NSO group handles dollars. If they didn't respond, they'd lose by default, and the court could order any assets the US can get their hands on seized. If they're getting paid in NIS by countries outside of Israel, the currency conversion happens with dollars as the intermediary. There's the US's window.
How is "Because the NSO group handles dollars" related to "the court could order any assets the US can get their hands on seized"? Presumably, if they were getting paid in bars of gold, the US could seize those too, if they could get their hands on them, no? On the other hand, if they were paid in US dollars, but in cash, that wouldn't establish jurisdiction, nor could it be seized, if the transfer happened outside U…
The overwhelming majority of dollars are not physical cash, and the overwhelming majority of dollar transactions by volume happen in a fashion which New York claims jurisdiction over (and, ultimately, has a big army that will back them on, which is what really matters in international law), even when neither party has any obvious connection to the US.
Even for physical cash, they might claim jurisdiction. Dollars are sometimes best understood as a particularly degenerate form of US government bonds.
Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
#65> Initially, the NSO sought to block all discovery in the lawsuit, "due to various US and Israeli restrictions," but that blanket request was denied. Interesting approach. The court could probably care less about Israeli restrictions as it's a different country. Officially US govt blacklisted Pegasus https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/11/us-blacklists-ma... . However, I wouldn't be surprised if some US spy agen…
couldn't* care less
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much as it may pain you, “could care less” is an established idiom in American English that’s been in use for 70 years, and Webster’s dictionary has a whole page about it: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-l... , in which they say: > people who go through life expecting informal variant idioms in English to behave logically are setting themselves up for a lifetime of hurt.
I couldn't care less if there's a group of people misusing the phrase, logically "I could care less" means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less". The majority of the world is not American, and presumably the majority of Americans don't use the incorrect phrase, so why should the rest of the world cater for a minority within a minority by putting their butchered phrase on equal footing with the correct phrase?
It doesn't mean the opposite, though.
For a formal linguistic example, see the concept of compound words. The meaning of the compound word does not equal the meaning of any of the constituent words. Often because the definition of the constituent words has drifted over time while usage of the compound word remained fixed.
You may unilaterally think that's wrong because you wish to impose a set of rules on language that others don't share, but that's not how meaning works. A sentence is just a string of bits. Meaning comes from a shared consensus about how to parse those bits into meaning.
Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
#67> Initially, the NSO sought to block all discovery in the lawsuit, "due to various US and Israeli restrictions," but that blanket request was denied. Interesting approach. The court could probably care less about Israeli restrictions as it's a different country. Officially US govt blacklisted Pegasus https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/11/us-blacklists-ma... . However, I wouldn't be surprised if some US spy agen…
couldn't* care less
Per my "troll metric" / rage bait/"le reddit quantification", formalized as a response's comment's conversational entropy divided by parent comment length, this is a fantastic comment.
Pure, distilled, thought provocation.
Thank you.
Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they mention every platform for marketing because once the device is rooted, they can extract data from any app. That doesn’t mean the vulnerability was in the app mentioned, nor that it was the fault of an app at all. At the end of the day, it’s between platforms (specifically iOS and Apple) and these exploit devs/traders, afaiu. That’s why Apple hates them. For better or worse, putting a torch under Apple’s…
> than to scrape the floor for peanuts in hope that mega corps will reward their discoveries. Security researchers capable of finding these exploits aren't exactly starving for food. They could easily land a $500k+ job at any big tech company or make a similar amount bug bounty hunting.
Ah yes, the lambos come out in force at the bsides conferences.
Re: WhatsApp forces Pegasus spyware maker to share its secret code
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is "Because the NSO group handles dollars" related to "the court could order any assets the US can get their hands on seized"? Presumably, if they were getting paid in bars of gold, the US could seize those too, if they could get their hands on them, no? On the other hand, if they were paid in US dollars, but in cash, that wouldn't establish jurisdiction, nor could it be seized, if the transfer happened outside U…
The overwhelming majority of dollars are not physical cash, and the overwhelming majority of dollar transactions by volume happen in a fashion which New York claims jurisdiction over (and, ultimately, has a big army that will back them on, which is what really matters in international law), even when neither party has any obvious connection to the US. Even for physical cash, they might claim jurisdiction. Dollars are…
And then people say that cryptocurrencies have no reason to exist. This one right here is a pretty powerful reason.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope so, the fact that attackers can hide behind international borders is an eternal thorn in the side of us blue teamers. Anyone who commits a crime in another country should be subject to that country seeking legal redress.
That is typically the case. If you commit a crime and flee to a different country, where you go will arrest you and turn you over to the country that you did the crime in. there are many treaties on this. It gets complex, some countries will not turn criminals over if the death pentalty is would be used for example. However in general if you commit a crime you can't flee to a different country. countries like north K…
The one that gets me is when someone does something on the internet that is legal in their country, but not in another, and the other tries to extradite and charge the person as a criminal.
If I run an Internet-facing server, where is it deemed to be? Everywhere?