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Re: Shave and a Haircut

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The whole of the US would be hard since national level news and culture is what is getting exported, but local knowledge by state/region is a possible source. Like pronunciation of location names pronunciation (like pronunciation of Tilamuk Oregon, Miami Oklahoma, etc.), songs and chants for university sports teams, and jingles and phrases from local commercials. Rock Chalk...

I enjoy watching recent Seattle arrivals attempt to pronounce Mukilteo, Sequim, and Sekiu. I grew up in Long Island, New York, and there used to be a radio commercial for a local insurance company that bagged on national competitors for not being able to pronounce Ronkonkoma. Other local place names that were difficult for some to pronounce, mostly indigenous language derived, were Quogue, Patchogue, Cutchogue, Yapha…

Louisiana has a long list of place names like this. New Orleans street names alone have standard pronunciations, many of which are not obvious especially if you've seen the name in other contexts. Then there are the city names like Plaquemines, Natchitoches, and even New Orleans itself (if you say "new or-LEENZ" like Chuck Berry you will be immediately flagged as an outsider).

I reminded my wife of Natchitoches every time she complained about pronouncing Massachusetts place names like Leominster when we lived up north.

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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Same in the US, but I can't imagine anyone would be able to accurately pinpoint its etymology.

Surprised to hear that, I would have guessed folks over 40 would be accustomed to "2-bit wh*re" - my dad used to scream that all the time about his personal banker "god damn that man he's a f'ing 2 bit wh..." - pretty sure my grandpa used it regularly also. Maybe my family are not the most refined of people. ;)

Back in the 90s, the anti-Microsoft movement had a slogan that went something like: "Windows: a 32-bit layer on top of a 16-bit operating system originally for an 8-bit CPU derived from a 4-bit microcontroller, by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition."

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same in the US, but I can't imagine anyone would be able to accurately pinpoint its etymology.

Surprised to hear that, I would have guessed folks over 40 would be accustomed to "2-bit wh*re" - my dad used to scream that all the time about his personal banker "god damn that man he's a f'ing 2 bit wh..." - pretty sure my grandpa used it regularly also. Maybe my family are not the most refined of people. ;)

Likewise, high school football cheerleaders '2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits a dollar all for XXXXX stand up and holler"

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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> The former prisoner of war and U.S. Navy seaman Doug Hegdahl reports fellow U.S. captives in the Vietnam War would authenticate a new prisoner's U.S. identity by using "Shave and a Haircut" as a shibboleth, tapping the first five notes against a cell wall and waiting for the appropriate response. With the mass export of western culture, I wonder if there are any songs, tunes, or patterns like this that would still…

I imagine they would have to be hyper-local at this point. You could authenticate someone from a major metropolis, maybe, but not likely the whole of the US.

I once interviewed a candidate for an engineering position in Seattle. It quickly turned out that he had fabricated his entire work history and education. My first clue was that he claimed two years of work experience at Costco HQ in Issaquah, Washington but he pronounced it as "Is-ACK" (the local pronounciation is "IS-uh-kwah"). No one who spent two years in Issaquah would ever pronounce it that way, regardless of the accent you're coming from. His story just got weirder from there.

[1]: To this day I'm not sure why -- he actually performed quite well on the tech part of the interview and might have gotten an offer if he hadn't turned out to be so untrustworthy!

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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> The former prisoner of war and U.S. Navy seaman Doug Hegdahl reports fellow U.S. captives in the Vietnam War would authenticate a new prisoner's U.S. identity by using "Shave and a Haircut" as a shibboleth, tapping the first five notes against a cell wall and waiting for the appropriate response. With the mass export of western culture, I wonder if there are any songs, tunes, or patterns like this that would still…

Nice try ISIS.

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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> The former prisoner of war and U.S. Navy seaman Doug Hegdahl reports fellow U.S. captives in the Vietnam War would authenticate a new prisoner's U.S. identity by using "Shave and a Haircut" as a shibboleth, tapping the first five notes against a cell wall and waiting for the appropriate response. With the mass export of western culture, I wonder if there are any songs, tunes, or patterns like this that would still…

The Pledge of Allegiance?

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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> The former prisoner of war and U.S. Navy seaman Doug Hegdahl reports fellow U.S. captives in the Vietnam War would authenticate a new prisoner's U.S. identity by using "Shave and a Haircut" as a shibboleth, tapping the first five notes against a cell wall and waiting for the appropriate response. With the mass export of western culture, I wonder if there are any songs, tunes, or patterns like this that would still…

Maybe 800-588-2-300?

I don’t know that one. Safari seems to have rendered it as a phone number, though. Which makes me wonder, you could probably use as a challenge: 867-5…

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine they would have to be hyper-local at this point. You could authenticate someone from a major metropolis, maybe, but not likely the whole of the US.

The whole of the US would be hard since national level news and culture is what is getting exported, but local knowledge by state/region is a possible source. Like pronunciation of location names pronunciation (like pronunciation of Tilamuk Oregon, Miami Oklahoma, etc.), songs and chants for university sports teams, and jingles and phrases from local commercials. Rock Chalk...

Worcester, which will have the advantage of letting us find any secret British.

Re: Shave and a Haircut

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post #38

Related: "na-na na-na na-na" https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/na-na_na-na_na-na I always wondered if anyone else noticed, how the Jackson 5 smuggled it into ABC. https://youtu.be/ho7796-au8U?t=01m24s

Have you heard it in Queen's "We are the champions"? "No time for losers, for we are the Champions" ... etc

Queen has to be one of the winners in terms of shortness of the message required, you can probably get by with just a STOMP-STOMP
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