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Is Tableau Dead?

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Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

One can safely assume Salesforce has very well made internal Tableau visualizations of Salepserson performance. That sort of failure would almost certainly show up with crisp drop shadows. It is a shame, however, that the behavior of the sales rep probably made the renewals rep's chart look bad if not worse.

> One can safely assume Salesforce has very well made internal Tableau visualizations of Salesperson performance.

I can't decide whether this statement is ironic or not. Salesforce is just another big company, with committees and meetings and crisp charts that exist only to show numbers going up, not to actually identify anything as boring as actual operational performance.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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This is about to be us with Heroku. Feels like software sales has just gotten worse for years now.

Heroku is one of those things that if someone tells me their still on it without a plan to migrate I question the executive leadership at their company. Shade of its former self, expensive, and there are plenty of better options. Really seems like the company is in zombie mode until it's eventual slow demise.

I agree.. but I'm surprised how little Heroku alternatives have popped up yet.. There is new contestants, mostly focussed on more global deploys, but no "Heroku but maintained" that I know of.. yet.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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If you haven't used PowerBI recently, let me tell you it is better than Tableau. In my previous work, using PowerBI I can easily drag and drop dimensions and it can suggest data visualization in browser. Now I have tableau and I have to open the laggy Tableau Creator, wait for a sync, then build a visualization from scratch. Maybe its poorly implemented at the new place, but I avoid it when I can - its easier and fas…

neither qlick nor tableau ever came up with a language even remotely as powerful as DAX. that's all i need to know. the rest is excel.

And, you can use DAX inside Excel with PowerPivot.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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My limited experience with Tableau is that it felt like Excel on speed. And heavily burdened by legacy (just like Excel or any Microsoft product is by the way). While what we wanted was something that was SQL-native. Back in the days we opted for a tool called Chartio which was later engulfed by Atlassian/Jira. Not sure what happened to it after, but it suited our purpose fine enough. Just line-charts and easily edit…

What’s different between an internal dashboard and a customer facing one? I am mostly asking what specifically is missing from Apache Superset as we are seriously looking into it… for internal use

I have some recollection about filters defined by jinja macros opening up for SQL injections.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

Just out curiosity, what did you end up replacing it with? Looking to shop for a client. They were hyped on Tableau.

Superset works wonders

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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I'm currently doing BI evaluation for improvement of the current toolkit, so I might use this comment section for some BI experts' advice.

We mostly use Looker Studio + Metabase currently.

Investigating Tableau, Looker, PowerBI, Sisense, Omni currently. PowerBI is great, but BigQuery integration seems to be lagging. Is there a way to get such a tool without paying $50K a year? Everything so far is only a "nice to have" upgrade over our mostly free toolkit. We also care about good geospatial visualizations and embedding reports for users without requiring a login.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is about to be us with Heroku. Feels like software sales has just gotten worse for years now.

Heroku is one of those things that if someone tells me their still on it without a plan to migrate I question the executive leadership at their company. Shade of its former self, expensive, and there are plenty of better options. Really seems like the company is in zombie mode until it's eventual slow demise.

I'm working with a company who are very happy on it currently. It still works really well for them, they're ok with the cost relative to the rest of their costs.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Our renewal got Shanghaied by an extremely greedy and over zealous sales rep who injected himself between us and our renewals reps, and wanted to turn a sub $80k renewal into damn near $200k this year and $300k next. Needless to say it got nowhere fast and, by the time he gave up and threw us “back” to renewals, the damage had been done. We elected to do what they thought was unthinkable and we just walked away. My o…

Just out curiosity, what did you end up replacing it with? Looking to shop for a client. They were hyped on Tableau.

Depending on the use cases PowerBI and Looker.

Re: Is Tableau Dead?

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Heroku is one of those things that if someone tells me their still on it without a plan to migrate I question the executive leadership at their company. Shade of its former self, expensive, and there are plenty of better options. Really seems like the company is in zombie mode until it's eventual slow demise.

I haven’t used Heroku in a long time but I really liked the feeling of starting up a database and a container for the app with two clicks. Which are the main alternatives in that space today?

The best alternative I found is render.com

It has this feeling of "just works", and documentation is pretty good.

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