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Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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OFC Gamma Ray is the least Power Metal band. Gamma Ray it's like blending Helloween and Pet Shop Boys. Still, a lot of albums from GR surpass Helloween. Yes, even the Keeper one.

Not my favorite band by a stretch, but Gamma Ray is 100% power metal, and nothing in it reminds me remotely of Pet Shop Boys... If anything, it's the unshakeable Helloween influence that brings the melodic happy metal vibes.

That's just the Kai Hansen doing his thing. He's also been quite active as a producer.

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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I only recently discovered Blind Guardian. Typically listened to thrash, rarely power metal. Man, what excellence. Brilliant vocals, great choruses, distinct and unique sense of melody both on guitar and vocals. Something I really love about them is that vocals, guitars, and drums all have very prominent and distinct parts. In many bands I feel like one instrument will often dominate and the band becomes boring. I.e.…

Blind Guardian is well known in Europe, but very little overseas. I went to a concert once and the mood was really good. The crowd sang for themselves for half an hour. The band was going for 3 hours altogether. Everyone was friendly (nothing else I expected with power metal).

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up on power metal and nowadays I mainly listen to two genres: black metal and classical music. One of the things they have in common is that I can't understand a word in either. I really appreciate that because I find lyrics in songs distracting and most of the time cringy.

There's a lot of overlap between metal and classical music (by which I mean orchestral, symphonic, and chamber, not the specific age). Something about the composition and structure of the music activates similar parts of my brain, and both are excellent to work to. (Of course, there's only so far you can push this—some metal bands are much closer to pop or jazz, and some classical music is quite distinctively its own…

> There's a lot of overlap between metal and classical music (by which I mean orchestral, symphonic, and chamber, not the specific age).

Yep, there's a whole bunch of bands in the symphonic deathcore genre. Shadow of Intent, The Archaic Epidemic, Lorna Shore and Immortal Disfigurement are a few that come to mind.

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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I only recently discovered Blind Guardian. Typically listened to thrash, rarely power metal. Man, what excellence. Brilliant vocals, great choruses, distinct and unique sense of melody both on guitar and vocals. Something I really love about them is that vocals, guitars, and drums all have very prominent and distinct parts. In many bands I feel like one instrument will often dominate and the band becomes boring. I.e.…

One thing that's changed my metal taste is going to metal festivals that mish mash everything together and making an effort to just go see bands who I have no idea about even if I listen to their music and am unsure about liking it. One of my favorite things about metal is how diverse it is and sometimes it just gets silly even if it appears absolutely serious - I think seeing the bands when they are having the most…

If you ever get a chance, I'd recommend seeing either of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra touring bands. Their show is a pretty spectacular mishmash of everything... and Christmas.

Sadly, Vitalij Kuprij just passed. :/

https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/music/trans-siberian-orchestr...

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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I've commented on a lot of tangential topics in this thread, but regarding the article, I find the clustering really impressive. I know a lot of these bands and going by feel I broadly agree with a lot of the groupings. Perhaps it's not exhaustive or perfect, for example I would intuit Blind Guardian to be much closer to Demons & Wizards, because both of those bands share lyricists and themes, but the analysis otherwise nails many of the tuples. For example, Helloween - Gamma Ray - Masterplan or Edguy - Avantasia, where both groupings' bands shared lyricists. I also agree with other not-so-obvious groupings like Kamelot - Angra - Stratovarius or Falconer - Dream Evil - Hammerfall - Nocturnal Rites.

Kudos to the author!

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll seed you Seven Sisters (UK), Riot city (Can), Traveler (Can), Toledo Steel (UK), Road Wolf (Austria), Bullet (Swe), Crazy Lixx (Swe). Take those to BandCamp/Metal Archives and look for "bands like" these and you'll see there are hundreds of UK, Canadian and Swedish bands. There is also the ever awesome Jorn (Swe) still putting out amazing Heavy Metal. Hope that helps. No need to listen to power metal ;)

Jorn is (Nor), not (Swe) - A Norwegian

I'll never accept Norway's separation! /s

A Brit here... sorry. Epic singer either way.

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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post #67

Only in Hacker News would I find a post about data science and power metal. Geeky af, but rad!

Have you literally never been on a metal forum?

> Have you literally never been on a metal forum?

Is it common to talk about data science in metal forums?

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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I only recently discovered Blind Guardian. Typically listened to thrash, rarely power metal. Man, what excellence. Brilliant vocals, great choruses, distinct and unique sense of melody both on guitar and vocals. Something I really love about them is that vocals, guitars, and drums all have very prominent and distinct parts. In many bands I feel like one instrument will often dominate and the band becomes boring. I.e.…

I still consider "Nightfall in middle earth" one of the best albums of all times. I remember waiting in front of the recordstore on the releasday in 1998, came home and listened to it from start to finish a few times while reading the newest "Rock Hard" magazine, good times. Even today it's one of the few albums I still enjoy listening from start to finish.

The start of “Into the storm” after Morgoth says “She, the mistress of her own lust” on a spoken intro track gives me the shivers to this day and I still consider it the best banging start of the album I have ever heard.

Re: Power Metal: is it really about dragons? (2018)

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So is there anyone else doing concept albums like Nightwish' "Endless Forms Most Beautiful"?

Many of the bands. Sticking to power metal and just from the top of my head: Rhapsody of Fire and related bands, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Sabaton, Kamelot, Iced Earth, Gloryhammer, Ayreon and related bands (not quite power metal but the overlap in audience is large I believe)...

I would even guess that in this genre, more albums are concept than not.

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