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Re: YouTube dominates TV streaming in US, per Nielsen's latest report

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Post by ssl-3 »

scarab92 wrote: post #57
ssl-3 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not one of them, and clearly you're not one of them, but: Yes, some people do find value in things like YouTube Shorts. And these people are real people. (But complaining about downvotes is a sure-fire way to get downvotes -- even as far back as Slashdot, where such a complaint could only be levied pre-emptively or as a reply to oneself.)

I find shorts quite helpful if you’re intentionally looking for a quick explainer. There are unfortunately lot of how to videos on YouTube that are 10 seconds of content in 13 minutes of filler. The trick is just to never scroll through shorts, but instead navigate back to search afterwards.

Perhaps I use YouTube differently:

If I am using YouTube for learning, then: My bullshit meter trips very quickly when I detect needless filler, and then I go find another video to watch (or, ideally, a writeup instead of a video -- away from YouTube). Shorts never enter the equation.

And if I am using YouTube for entertainment, then: I want more entertainment than a YouTube Short typically provides.

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Post by fnordian_slip »

elcritch wrote: post #10

For now that is. I sort of hope someone more motivated than myself makes a timer for how long before the crappification* of YouTube begins now that it appears MBAs will be taking over. The new CEO probably has some gumption, but it seems inevitable. * of course this is subjective, but generally I can find lots of great YouTube content. I can buy premium to avoid the ads and become the client, not the product. 1: http…

The fact that search is broken (you often only get a few relevant videos and then some recommendations that have nothing to do with your search) and YouTube shorts are shoved in your face constantly are not enough for you to attest enshittification at this point in time? How bad do you expect it to become in the near future?

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Post by bowsamic »

hpaavola wrote: post #40
spiderice wrote: post #26

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> Do people really find value in shorts? Yes. Obviously. This is an absurd question.

Depending what value means... I think that shorts do not bring any value, just mindless filler. In my books that has no value. Some might disagree.

I’ve learnt about a lot of things through shorts. It’s not just crap

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Post by bowsamic »

pkamb wrote: post #47
spiderice wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do people really find value in shorts? Yes. Obviously. This is an absurd question.

People find value in TikTok, obviously, and Google wants part of that pie and is willing to degrade all of our YouTube experience in order to chase it. But very unclear if anyone finds value in Shorts.

My shorts feed is far higher quality than my tiktok feed right now. I definitely find value in it

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Post by hiAndrewQuinn »

iancmceachern wrote: post #3

It's replaced what was traditional TV in our home. We watch movies, and youtube as if it were tv. Old TV is now either 24 hour garbage news, reality shows, or similar nonesense.

Same here. We have the benefit of a nice projector, so we have biweekly movie nights with friends; when it's just us we'll fire up YouTube and watch whatever tickles out fancy.

Last night it was Vewn animated shorts and music videos by group_inou, here's a favorite: https://youtu.be/JP2728BtJ34?si=UGkXJWJFGdy8muyu

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Post by sdenton4 »

subtra3t wrote: post #31
harryquach wrote: post #23

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Same in our house. Most youtube channels we watch have weekly releases which we watch similar to traditional TV episode releases.

If you don't mind sharing, what YT channels do you typically watch?

Laura Kampf and Jet Lag are the popular ones in my house...

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Post by djsavvy »

spike021 wrote: post #33
electriclove wrote: post #16

I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to pay to have an ad-free experience

IMO what Instagram has done is worse. Reels every other post in the feed, reels in stories, reels specific tab. On top of all that, yesterday I wanted to post a 5 second video post, just a regular video post, of my dog doing something, and no matter what I did it insisted on posting it as a reel, even though at one point I cancelled the new post, went back to the "new post" view, made sure "post" not "reel" was selec…

To post a video as a non-reel the standard workaround is also putting a picture in the same post. You’ll see some creators with an image that just says “anti-reels slide”.

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Post by bberrry »

xbmcuser wrote: post #12

The amount of human knowledge available today on youtube I think nothing will ever come close as apart from formal knowledge we have millions of small hacks improvements that would probably not been written down but have been recorded. If you are dedicated enough today you can go from being a novice to being quite proficient in 100s of different things. And every day the knowledge keeps increasing as well as improvin…

I know it's silly but I sometimes feel anxiety at the prospect of that enormous bank of knowledge getting lost in some way or another (e.g. Google deciding it wants to do something else or some disaster).

It is truly invaluable to _humanity_

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Post by huytersd »

wkat4242 wrote: post #41
xbmcuser wrote: post #12

The amount of human knowledge available today on youtube I think nothing will ever come close as apart from formal knowledge we have millions of small hacks improvements that would probably not been written down but have been recorded. If you are dedicated enough today you can go from being a novice to being quite proficient in 100s of different things. And every day the knowledge keeps increasing as well as improvin…

I think there is much more information on the internet in written format though. Which I personally find a lot more accessible as well. I always find video really slow and not very information dense, I don't have the patience for it. I get frustrated with the slow delivery whereas I can consume written text at my own speed. Skipping video works of course but I constantly have to "resync" my mind after a skip which ha…

Most things that aren’t academic can’t really be learned by reading about it. You have to see someone do it to get all the thousands of different bits of information you cannot possibly write down. Videos are extremely information dense depending on what you’re trying to learn.
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