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Blue Origin has emerged as the likely buyer for United Launch Alliance

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Re: Blue Origin has emerged as the likely buyer for United Launch Alliance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to some commentators Blue Origin has more than a fighting chance to compete with SpaceX https://youtu.be/1slJdJTzfzc?si=V7HNxAvBz0TQtMTW

I respect the link but does anyone have a TLDR, or even a 10-minute summary?

SpaceX launches keep exploding and to be compliant with Nasa requirements they need to start launching about now (they need a lot of successful launches not too close together)

They proposal also requires dozens of in orbit refils and was rashly awarded in very sketchy circumstances by a NASA executive that now works for spaceX

(NASA was supposed to award 2 contracts for X billion dollars, the new budget has only ~200 million dollars so the executive calls spacex to have them ask a lower price)

Overall my impression is that SpaceX/Musk lives on hype ("Success maybe, Excitement guaranteed" cit Musk) While Blue Origin is trying to build something solid slowly (having infinite money helps...)

I do not mean this as a criticism of Musk (the original video is quite scathing). For a good representation of my personal opinion of Musk I would point to the Slate Star Codex review of his biography https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-elon-musk

Re: Blue Origin has emerged as the likely buyer for United Launch Alliance

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to some commentators Blue Origin has more than a fighting chance to compete with SpaceX https://youtu.be/1slJdJTzfzc?si=V7HNxAvBz0TQtMTW

Common Sense Skeptic is a ridiculous person whos literal whole identity is to trash everything related to SpaceX. When you said some commentator' I already knew who it was before I looked it up. SpaceX could cure cancer and he would make a series of tweets about how its not an accomplishment because not every person with cancer is already cured. For years now he has always used the worst interpretation possible and d…

I agree that they too often chose to be petty and have a strong negative bias. They also sometimes seems to believe that insults are arguments.

My personal opinion of Musk is quite different[0], but I do believe that they are not factually lying about the numbers and court documents.

[0] it is much closer to how it is described here https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-elon-musk

Re: Blue Origin has emerged as the likely buyer for United Launch Alliance

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respect the link but does anyone have a TLDR, or even a 10-minute summary?

SpaceX launches keep exploding and to be compliant with Nasa requirements they need to start launching about now (they need a lot of successful launches not too close together) They proposal also requires dozens of in orbit refils and was rashly awarded in very sketchy circumstances by a NASA executive that now works for spaceX (NASA was supposed to award 2 contracts for X billion dollars, the new budget has only ~20…

> was rashly awarded in very sketchy circumstances by a NASA executive that now works for spaceX

Except that it wasn't. That's just one of the CSS things that only he actually believes.

> so the executive calls spacex to have them ask a lower price

Except that not actually true.

In fact, a NASA official just recently got fired for this. If anybody had real evidence that this happened, the person responsible for selection would have been fired.

> Overall my impression is that SpaceX/Musk lives on hype

They just launched their 300 rocket and landed over 274 of them. They have many times tested the most advanced engine in the world. They supply cargo and crew transport to ISS. The are the largest rocket and sat operator in the world. This is the literal opposite of 'just hype'. SpaceX has actual revenue, something that actually makes sustainable over time.

BlueOrigin, the company CSS loves to hype because they are not SpaceX are literally just a vanity project. They have no done much yet and the re-usability of their rocket is 'hype'.

It really takes the mastermind delusional CSS to pretend the opposite is true.

Re: Blue Origin has emerged as the likely buyer for United Launch Alliance

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That's why Jeff is selling his AMZN stock

Amazon only pays him $81,000 a year so he has to make ends meet somehow. But seriously, he has sold over over $38 billion in stock [1]. The latest sale was part of a trading plan established last year. If he wanted to buy ULA for cash he could literally go to any bank and they would give him a securities backed loan - rich people don't need to be liquid for most purchases. 1. https://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/…

Bezos needs to make ends meet is such an ironic statement.
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