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Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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I respect the work that he's done and the contributions he's given to humanity but for once I would like to see something by Stephen Wolfram that didn't involve at least 50% of the content being a form of self-aggrandizement. I find that everything I try to consume from him contains his autobiography interspersed in the giant wall of text. This video is exquisitely cringeworthy.

You just can't handle the Kanye of Mathematics.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those that were forgotten may be right too. I would still listen dispassionately. He's smarter than most people on this thread, that's for sure. Being logical is ridiculing someone for being wrong, not for being full of himself. Many geniuses were ass holes.

I assure you -- There's nothing wrong with ridiculing someone for being an asshole. How you interact with other people matters, like it or not.

I never said there was nothing wrong with it.

I said to be logical you should only ridicule people for being wrong.

Ridiculing someone for being an ass hole is valid but illogical. There is merit to this distinction because sometimes the ass hole is right and everyone else is wrong.

The key here is dispassionate judgment and analysis. Can you handle that? If not that's totally normal and valid.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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- They pay like shit (compared to "sexy employers") - Headquartered in Champaign, Illinois (not a bad town, but not sexy) - As "cool" as their software is, not a lot of people use it. Python is eating their lunch, ESPECIALLY outside of academia. Although, they're losing ground in academia as well - Stephen Wolfram isn't a charismatic leader who is fun to work for. There's no shortage of stories of him short circuitin…

Thanks for the insight. I used to be a mathematician and looked a bit into working as a numerical mathematician on numerical or optimization software. What I noticed is that salaries do tend to be significantly lower than FAANG. Maybe that's because it is a niche and there aren't lots of employers around doing that sort of work.

How does the market for numeric optimization software divided by the number of engineers required to create and maintain it compare to the market for "nearly any physical good, cloud computing, eyeballs-for-ads, watching videos, connecting with other humans, high quality computers and mobile devices, maps, email, and search" divided by the [larger] number of engineers required to create and maintain it?

Sales / potential gross profit per FAANG employee is high.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Here's one example: http://bactra.org/weblog/915.html

Is there something wrong there? I’m sorry if I’m being dense.

Attempting to goad a critical reviewer into engaging in some sort of comments-section "public debate" (assuming that somehow the public discussion would change the reviewer's mind) a _decade_ after the fact? That behavior is, in a word, insufferable.

EDIT: Also, "I know it was a challenge to review a book of its size..." comes off as insinuating that (1) the book is somehow "grand" and (2) maybe the reviewer didn't "get it".

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Scientific American I think did a balanced article about this character: https://web.archive.org/web/20231231040033/https://www.scien... My favorite quotes: when provided with some of the responses from other physicists regarding his work, Wolfram is singularly unenthused. “I’m disappointed by the naivete of the questions that you’re communicating,” he grumbles. “I deserve better.” “There’s a tradition of scientists…

> “There’s a tradition of scientists approaching senility to come up with grand, improbable theories,” the late physicist Freeman Dyson told Newsweek back in 2002. “Wolfram is unusual in that he’s doing this in his 40s.”

That is a brutal take down. Did Dyson and Wolfram have a math-beef going or something?

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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So, story time. I once interviewed Stephen Wolfram for IEEE's software engineering radio and I had a lot of fun doing it and he did to. We ended up running way overtime because he was having fun showing me things with Mathematica. He is a fascinating person, I successfully kept him off talking about his math / physics theories and on the idea of a programming language leading to better thinking and more break-through…

Agree with most everything, your description resonates (also a since 1988 mathematica person).

Theo Gray is who came up with the notebook, that iPython -> Jupyter were a multilanguage shout-out to, and they cite such. Other UIUC professors wrote significant parts of Mathematica originally, were paid for such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Gray

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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So, story time. I once interviewed Stephen Wolfram for IEEE's software engineering radio and I had a lot of fun doing it and he did to. We ended up running way overtime because he was having fun showing me things with Mathematica. He is a fascinating person, I successfully kept him off talking about his math / physics theories and on the idea of a programming language leading to better thinking and more break-through…

> Notebooks, like Jupter, clearly came from his work

While I often hear this claim from Wolfram and his supporters, I have never seen any evidence that it was his innovation. MathCAD was the first software released with a notebook interface, and there was research using those ideas prior to the release of the first Mathematica notebook. Maybe his particular take was an improvement on the others, but the claim that it was entirely his idea seems to me to be 100% incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_interface#History

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Interview with Stephen Wolfram on his favorite subject. EDIT 1: Maybe I'll update this as I listen, maybe not we'll see. But so far: - Doesn't remember anything he used to talk about with his parents. Doesn't remember any particularly interesting conversations. Doesn't know anything about his parent's political inclinations. - He a brother younger by 10 years. Says he was an "only child for about 10 years". For the r…

When your comment was just the first sentence, it made me laugh out loud after the perfect short delay to comprehend it.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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post #31

I respect the work that he's done and the contributions he's given to humanity but for once I would like to see something by Stephen Wolfram that didn't involve at least 50% of the content being a form of self-aggrandizement. I find that everything I try to consume from him contains his autobiography interspersed in the giant wall of text. This video is exquisitely cringeworthy.

blah blah (which I did in 1988) blah blah (which I completed in 1992). He has no collaborators. He gives no credit to others. He just relentlessly names things after himself, takes singular credit for everything, and name-drops other famous scientists he bumped into. I genuinely find the wolfram physics project interesting, but the behavior of wolfram himself sets off all my bullshit alarms. I suspect that it will be…

The stallman of physics.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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So, story time. I once interviewed Stephen Wolfram for IEEE's software engineering radio and I had a lot of fun doing it and he did to. We ended up running way overtime because he was having fun showing me things with Mathematica. He is a fascinating person, I successfully kept him off talking about his math / physics theories and on the idea of a programming language leading to better thinking and more break-through…

> Notebooks, like Jupter, clearly came from his work While I often hear this claim from Wolfram and his supporters, I have never seen any evidence that it was his innovation. MathCAD was the first software released with a notebook interface, and there was research using those ideas prior to the release of the first Mathematica notebook. Maybe his particular take was an improvement on the others, but the claim that it…

Ah, I did not know that. My bad. Maybe he was more of a popularizer of the approach then?
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