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Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by freediver »

kazinator wrote: post #40
freediver wrote: post #12

Kagi founder here. This is very early (alpha) concept built by a single Kagi Labs developer in a few weeks. The proper infrastruture and product is not built yet. We are launching a prototype to get feedback and gauge demand. Why does this exist? It would be an efficient way for us to build and expand our own index. Assuming users of this would be Kagi users, we would expand our index by tens of thousands of high qua…

Kagi is Japanese for key, right? We search with a search key. If I'm getting it right. Do you know that "sidekick" is aibó in Japanese (相棒)? Notice the "AI" in it?

Didn't know that and thanks for giving us the idea. Aibó sounds much better than Sidekick, we may need to rename :)

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by samatman »

mayneack wrote: post #26
bbor wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just released a major improvement to these, actually :). So keep trying it! At the risk of sounding like a shill: kagi is by far the best money I spent last year. The “programming” “academia” “small web” and (especially!) “PDF” buttons are worth their weight in GOLD. These are the main two improvements from last week: We added Wolfram|Alpha to enhance our capabilities in calculations, unit conversions, and time…

Oh, interesting. I was actually wondering what had changed. That wolfram integration needs some work. Right now it's consistently just simplifying fractions. I keep having to "!g" in brave to get google to do simple math for me. https://i.imgur.com/ghmUcAh.png

That's.... good, though?

What happens if you ask for 23000.0/10500?

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by hackeruse »

freediver wrote: post #55
quinncom wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Vlad, How will you prevent someone from connecting Sidekick to a website that appears at first to be a small website but eventually fills with LLM-generated SEO keywords and ads? You might be able to manually review sites when they first sign up for Sidekick, but once the channel is open for them to inject content into Kagi's index, what's to stop them from abusing their privileged position?

That is a great question. Well we first have to ask what would be the purpose of someone going through the trouble to create such (LLM generated) spammy SEO content? The answer (for the majority of web at least now) is to monetize it with ads/affiliate links. If that is the case then the answer is easy as we already penalize sites with ads/trackers on them for our general web search, and completely boot them out of o…

This is a naive take. SEO schemes are attractive for companies that sell products themselves (e.g. try searching anything related to ETL tools). The content itself is the ad and you won’t find any ad serving scripts or affiliate links in there.

(Source: have created such schemes, although would generally not recommend them to my customers nowadays)

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by samatman »

nabogh wrote: post #34

I cancelled my Kagi subscription because it's a little too expensive for me in the unlimited search tier. And I search too much for the limited search tier. I can't help but wonder if my money was being spent on pet projects like this instead of improving/maintaining the search.

They don't spend your money, fella.

They spend their money, some of which you paid them in exchange for services. Which you've stopped doing.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by justusthane »

BeetleB wrote: post #47

OK - I must be dumb. > Just integrate with two lines of code using our lightweight Web Components (20kB min+gzip) or our Docusaurus, Hugo, or VitePress plugins. See demo in Kagi's own documentation at help.kagi.com How do I do this on my site? I couldn't find the code anywhere.

Maybe you didn’t read to the end, or maybe the page was updated after you commented?

> We are currently in the process of gauging demand for this service. Please register your interest and we'll notify you when it launches.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by lutoma »

sedatk wrote: post #14

I've been a paying Kagi user for a few months now. The only thing that made me miss Google results was immediate answers: the answers that are extracted from a prominent web page and shown directly, so you don't have to click the link. Actually, Kagi has some of that for certain queries, but it's not as extensive as Google's. So, contrary to the most of the comments here, I support their AI endeavors for the sake of…

One thing I miss from Google is a reliable built-in calculator. I know I could just use some other calculator app but the habit of just typing stuff into my address bar is hard to shake.

Kagi also has a calculator, but for a lot of queries it gives questionable results, for example for `210/8` it returns `105/4`. Technically correct, sure, but almost never what I want.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by lauriewired »

Any chance you'd consider making a version of this as a browser extension for paid subscribers?

What I really want is this functionality on unsupported websites/documentation. It would be killer to "ask" kagi a fact about the article or docs I'm already reading, even if it only traverses/parses the single page.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by ipaddr »

BadHumans wrote: post #27
nicce wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that it can go also terribly wrong. (New way for SEO optimisation)

Kagi users are in such a minority that I don't see how it is worth it for anyone to optimize for Kagi search results.

No one would want to target developers with their warez.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by lelandbatey »

Light fast response, fuzzy search, low-difficulty include. If this was available and free, I'd be working hard to use this to search all my note/docs. If it were cheap, I'd use it for simple search @ dayjob on a regular basis. What a great little feature! I am not a paying customer for Kagi, though I keep thinking about it. Maybe this'll turn me into a paying customer ahead of schedule.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by nabogh »

chias wrote: post #36
nabogh wrote: post #34

I cancelled my Kagi subscription because it's a little too expensive for me in the unlimited search tier. And I search too much for the limited search tier. I can't help but wonder if my money was being spent on pet projects like this instead of improving/maintaining the search.

All companies allocate some fraction of their resources towards innovation outside of what is currently their core feature-set.

Yeah like it's fine. I just felt the value wasn't quite there for me personally and I found a few too many projects coming out that didn't benefit me. So I cancelled. No harm done in the end, just a little sad nothing is filling my personal niche of the market.
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