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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by ClassyJacket »

rovr138 wrote: post #38
ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

I can’t use my wife’s iPad as a second display. Joined her on a travel trip. She went to the office, decided to try using her iPad as a second monitor via usb c… nope. Can’t do that. No idea why. It’s unlocked. It’s trusted. Why can’t it be used?

Because these artificial limitations make you more likely to buy a second one

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by catchnear4321 »

pquki4 wrote: post #19
LeoPanthera wrote: post #8

This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

> their employer should issue one iPad is not in the list of "standard" hardware for my company (with thousands of developers and a good balance sheet). Good luck getting that approved as an exception.

there are plenty of companies where the thought of an exception, let alone such a restriction, is entirely alien. in part because it would take many of these companies, combined, to match the furniture/head count of full corpo.

you also are ignoring the non-technical leadership class. there are plenty of exceptions in full corpo. clearly you weren’t special enough to get one on a whim. no judgement there, never was myself.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by WWLink »

threeseed wrote: post #35
WWLink wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? That must've been a recent change. I used to log into apple music via itunes with my personal account while MacOS itself was using my work account.. yep, two separate apple IDs. That sucks.

You have one AppleID for iCloud and one for App Store, Music, AppleTV etc. They can be the same or different. And this hasn't changed for years.

Good to know it hasn't changed lol. Coulda swore I saw the account option in the Apple Music app.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by verticalscaler »

piskov wrote: post #57
verticalscaler wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Macbook camera ships with the same chip as the iPhone 5S (2013). It has sufficient pixels for what it is meant for with most of the processing done in software. That last bit is key.

It’s not about the chip or sensor for that matter: it’s about the lens. That’s why macbook from 2010-2013 has better camera quality: it has thicker display and more space for camera module.

This matters for FaceTime how? What more are you trying to do with this thing? I don't follow.

Might just be the only example where I actually agree with Apple about keeping something as thin as possible.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by w-ll »

verticalscaler wrote: post #64
piskov wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not about the chip or sensor for that matter: it’s about the lens. That’s why macbook from 2010-2013 has better camera quality: it has thicker display and more space for camera module.

This matters for FaceTime how? What more are you trying to do with this thing? I don't follow. Might just be the only example where I actually agree with Apple about keeping something as thin as possible.

Why thin? The WxH of their phones is crazy, bend gate.... I'd take a thicker phone, cant belive the dropped the 13 mini size, it was my last refugee since they killed the SE.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by weikju »

gumby wrote: post #49
Retr0id wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.

Surely you could just log in and log out under the two names.

On an iOS device that potentially means erasing GBs of content (photos, iCloud Drive and app files, Safari bookmarks etc) and re syncing GBs of content from the new account. Over and over.

Not to mention potential criss crossing of accounts that happens. Heck my work phone still rings when my personal FaceTime get a call even if I completely logged out of my personal iCloud on the work phone (was a bad idea should never have experimented). No obvious way to fix that.

At some point all my personal iCloud photos showed up on my work phone due to a similar problem. That’s fixed now but I’m always worried it’ll happen again.

I’ll never login with a personal iCloud on a work device ever again.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by verticalscaler »

w-ll wrote: post #65
verticalscaler wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This matters for FaceTime how? What more are you trying to do with this thing? I don't follow. Might just be the only example where I actually agree with Apple about keeping something as thin as possible.

Why thin? The WxH of their phones is crazy, bend gate.... I'd take a thicker phone, cant belive the dropped the 13 mini size, it was my last refugee since they killed the SE.

Agreed about phones disagree about MacBooks.

I wouldn’t want a thicker laptop screen just for a bigger lens. Pointless.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by theshrike79 »

davisp wrote: post #4

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…

Same here.

I log in with my personal Apple ID and get the stuff from App Store I bought on my company machine too.

All companies have used MDM to disable iCloud Drive though, which was a pain with a few apps that used it to sync stuff between computers, but perfectly reasonable. It's so transparent that it'd be too easy to accidentally get corporate stuff on my own Cloud Drive.

I moved that stuff to sync via a Dropbox account I don't use for anything else and everything has been fine for years.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by rovr138 »

piskov wrote: post #46
rovr138 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t use my wife’s iPad as a second display. Joined her on a travel trip. She went to the office, decided to try using her iPad as a second monitor via usb c… nope. Can’t do that. No idea why. It’s unlocked. It’s trusted. Why can’t it be used?

Surely there’s an app for that: “Duet display” exists more than a decade (sidecar basically sherlocked it). Also something called Astra or Luna (don’t remember exactly).

Hah, same thing I thought!

Went looking on the AppStore and I had bought Duet on December 2004!

They went subscription based, https://www.duetdisplay.com/

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by theshrike79 »

fastball wrote: post #12
threeseed wrote: post #5

Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts. So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.

Honestly the real problem with security is the whole passcode -> Face ID -> passcode flow. It is relatively easy for someone to see the passcode that unlocks my phone, in one way or another. All of my banking apps are locked behind Face ID. But if you lock an app with Face ID, you can just override with the phones passcode. This is dumb. The app Face ID backup passcode should be separate from the device unlock passco…

And preferably don't have a numerical passcode.

It's really easy to shouldersurf a numerical passcode, the buttons are so big and clearly placed.

It's a lot harder to do with a CorrectHorseBatteryStaple style password.

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