Is it using sentiment analysis?? If so that is very cool. But also annoying; I'm glad I don't use FB.
Facebook Stops You From Posting ‘Irrelevant Or Inappropriate’ Comments
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#62This is consistent with Facebook's established strategy. Ultimately Facebook want to make sure that you (the user) will always associate Facebook with positive emotions, not negative ones. It's the same reason that there is no dislike button, in spite of years of requests to the contrary. If you really look closely you will find that Facebook does not have the most advanced UI, nor does it offer the most functionalit…
"associate FB with positive emotions, not negative ones"
So basically, it wants to be the Disneyland of the Internet?
Laudable. Although I can't tell if my early adopter bias is telling me this is an avenue for disruption, or whethrer such safe pablum is the ticket to riches for reaching the masses. I am now leaning towards this being a big step in the AOLification of FB.
Re: Facebook Stops You From Posting ‘Irrelevant Or Inappropriate’ Comments
#63This is an isolated incident. "Irrelevant or Inappropriate" sounds like a euphemism for spam- if Facebook is fighting comment spam then I applaud them. Their algorithm just isn't quite right yet. No story here. "Is this censorship?" Are false positives on a spam filter censorship?
Hi, fb engineer here. This is exactly what's going on. If you recall, there were several articles written a few months back pertaining to comment spam, and very low quality comments (ascii art or 'LOOOOOL!!!') from subscribers. This is part of an effort to curb that and has likely gone awry. It only affects subscriber -> subscribee comments.
I'm confused here. Posting "LOL!" is not spam in any way, at least how i define spam. It might not subjectively be appropriate (if it's not appropriate to find it funny), it's debateably irrelevant (if it is not important who finds it funny). But it's not spam.
Spam is broadly defined as unsolicited bulk advertising. An example spam comment would be "LOL! Also check out this great pharmaceutical company: xxx".
The latter is certainly something that should be filtered out, if it's irrelevant advertising that marketers are using to peddle their crap. It's mostly unsubjective and uncontextual and its appropriate for filters to automatically detect.
But filtering out the former is a form of censorship that is often best left to humans (like downvotes to bury bad comments). I don't think this should be the job of the comments system to determine what is considered "appropriate" or "beneficial to the discussion."
A "LOL" or ASCII art image or "no u" or any other meme can be anything from a well-timed ironic offhand jab, an appropriate affirmation or response, to totally irrelevant and inappropriate noise. It depends on topic, context, parent, and existing noise in the thread and is inherently objective.
Re: Facebook Stops You From Posting ‘Irrelevant Or Inappropriate’ Comments
#64This is a great example of machine learning gone wrong. Facebook turns the knob on their "positivity" algorithm a little too far to the right. Machine learning is one of this things that works great until it doesn't, and you get misguided decisions like this that had zero human involvement.
wat?
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to get rid of spam simply ban programmatic posting to walls from apps. What users get up to is a lot less bad than what apps do. And get rid of the 'like' un-feature. That will go a long way to restoring sanity.
So basically, get rid of Facebook, Jacques?
Fine by me.
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You know what makes your point so hilarious is you could replace Facebook with "internet". The internet is nothing more than a controlled place for spamming. The internet is for attractive girls to spam themselves to hundreds/thousands of males. The internet is trying to monetize all of this noise without scaring away its users. Now let me ask you. Is that ALL the internet is for ? Is that ALL Facebook is for ?
I am sorry, but isnt it just like describing life on its own?? Bunch of women try to look and smell and feel younger than other women in order to win most guys affections (or at least, the most)
Perhaps in your perception of reality. But in the real world ("life on its own")? No. No one obsesses over how women look/smell/feel and for what reasons except you. What does your comment have to do with Facebook? How does this further the discussion? Comments like yours make this community an unwelcoming place sometimes.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am sorry, but isnt it just like describing life on its own?? Bunch of women try to look and smell and feel younger than other women in order to win most guys affections (or at least, the most)
Perhaps in your perception of reality. But in the real world ("life on its own")? No. No one obsesses over how women look/smell/feel and for what reasons except you. What does your comment have to do with Facebook? How does this further the discussion? Comments like yours make this community an unwelcoming place sometimes.
He was continuing the unhelpful and almost absurd generalization that the parent was making about the "internet being for X, Y, Z". Sure its true in the most general sense but it's not a useful point to make--that was his point.
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#68This is not isolated.
I posted a comment on a friend-of-friend's feed. He posted some Bertrand Russell quote and I took issue with the phraseology but generally agreed with the sentiment.
When I clicked the "post" button, Facebook gave me some warning message along the lines of "are you sure you want to be posting this? If you post bad things you could be banned from commenting"
I found this fairly insulting. I think Facebook has finally found the thing that's going to drive me completely away from their system.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, fb engineer here. This is exactly what's going on. If you recall, there were several articles written a few months back pertaining to comment spam, and very low quality comments (ascii art or 'LOOOOOL!!!') from subscribers. This is part of an effort to curb that and has likely gone awry. It only affects subscriber -> subscribee comments.
I'm confused here. Posting "LOL!" is not spam in any way, at least how i define spam. It might not subjectively be appropriate (if it's not appropriate to find it funny), it's debateably irrelevant (if it is not important who finds it funny). But it's not spam. Spam is broadly defined as unsolicited bulk advertising. An example spam comment would be "LOL! Also check out this great pharmaceutical company: xxx". The la…
So what if you post not one "LOL" but thousands or millions of "LOL"s? Furthermore, what if the whole purpose of you posting millions of "LOL"s was to defeat spam filters. Would it be spam then?
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I'm confused here. Posting "LOL!" is not spam in any way, at least how i define spam. It might not subjectively be appropriate (if it's not appropriate to find it funny), it's debateably irrelevant (if it is not important who finds it funny). But it's not spam. Spam is broadly defined as unsolicited bulk advertising. An example spam comment would be "LOL! Also check out this great pharmaceutical company: xxx". The la…
So what if you post not one "LOL" but thousands or millions of "LOL"s? Furthermore, what if the whole purpose of you posting millions of "LOL"s was to defeat spam filters. Would it be spam then?
Yes ban accounts that are clearly abusing comments with thousands or millions of "LOL".
No need to detect on individual comments if something is deemed "appropriate" or not.