Wow, I have accounts there as early as when they started and last year was almost going to pull the trigger and migrate there, glad I never did, which is a reminder for everyone to use your own domain so all your email/s are valid even if you change the service.
Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#62> With the Notion acquisition, what happens to my Skiff accounts?
And then 5 paragraphs with corporate blabber, a 6th with the important instructions (or a link to it; telling you it's not that bad to loose your account) and a 7nd with corporate blabber.
They really got bought from corporate.
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#63Why do companies try to compete in this space? The margins are thin and the giants have vast offerings. The only thing I see winning against Google and Microsoft is some hybrid, open source local + cloud suite of tools. Something better than Thunderbird, more like Obsidian. A combination of native and cloud, working well across all platforms, integrated with a full suite of other productivity/office tools, but most i…
I think Dropbox and Slack/Salesforce might have a chance. I'd argue that Dropbox might need to enter the space in order to be competitive long term. Slack is already competing with email and Salesforce already owns an online office suite. I think the only path small players have is as an acquisition.
Salesforce owns an online office suite?
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#64Why do companies try to compete in this space? The margins are thin and the giants have vast offerings. The only thing I see winning against Google and Microsoft is some hybrid, open source local + cloud suite of tools. Something better than Thunderbird, more like Obsidian. A combination of native and cloud, working well across all platforms, integrated with a full suite of other productivity/office tools, but most i…
Yep...E2E encryption just doesn't cut it when the company still owns your data & accounts on their servers. I've adopted Anytype; encryption + self-hosting + open-source backend is rock solid.
Advertises local-first on top of their page. Immediate account creation requirement on iOS, not even a demo mode.
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#65Why do companies try to compete in this space? The margins are thin and the giants have vast offerings. The only thing I see winning against Google and Microsoft is some hybrid, open source local + cloud suite of tools. Something better than Thunderbird, more like Obsidian. A combination of native and cloud, working well across all platforms, integrated with a full suite of other productivity/office tools, but most i…
For every weary graybeard there is a bright-eyed & bushy-tailed young hacker eager to "stick it to the man" while also lacking in the experience of having been burned which forms the foundation of the cynicism from whence the weariness comes.
This isn’t a failure though. Getting bought out by a larger company is literally the aim of most startups
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#66Man. In addition to Skiff users, I feel really bad for the people working there, too. Imagine spending years of your life on one product, working hard every day to make it as good as it can be... all for it just to go “poof” one day so some executives and investors can get rich. Might have been the plan all along, even. Sad
acquisition and merger culture is so incredibly destructive. It doesnt have to be this way either, with much stricter regulations. It's an enormous waste of resources and that's the point half the time, just buy companies to delete their services.
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#67Why do companies try to compete in this space? The margins are thin and the giants have vast offerings. The only thing I see winning against Google and Microsoft is some hybrid, open source local + cloud suite of tools. Something better than Thunderbird, more like Obsidian. A combination of native and cloud, working well across all platforms, integrated with a full suite of other productivity/office tools, but most i…
Yep...E2E encryption just doesn't cut it when the company still owns your data & accounts on their servers. I've adopted Anytype; encryption + self-hosting + open-source backend is rock solid.
I'll check again Anytype in maybe a year or so, because currently their whole "typing" thing just isn't up to snuff (I wrote about it here before so you can check my comments history of you are curious and find a lengthy post about it and why I think only Trilium notes is sound -as in enforcing type consistency- in this space).
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Dropbox and Slack/Salesforce might have a chance. I'd argue that Dropbox might need to enter the space in order to be competitive long term. Slack is already competing with email and Salesforce already owns an online office suite. I think the only path small players have is as an acquisition.
Salesforce owns an online office suite?
Yes - https://quip.com/
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#69Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#70so Skiff's been paid by Notion to shut down. Does Notion offer their own competing email service?
Nope