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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I subscribed for it. But then it redirects to https://gemini.google.com/ which throws 404. When I went to https://bard.google.com it shows Bard Advanced. Is Bard advanced same as Gemini Ultra?

I believe so. They haven't announced anything yet but should be getting official launch soon.

Popup for me @ https://gemini.google.com/app:

"Bard is now Gemini

The best way to get direct access to Google AI All the capabilities that you know and love are still here, and will keep getting better in the Gemini era"

So I suppose this is the official launch.

(https://gemini.google.com/app 404'd until I connected my workspace account in bard extensions).

Edit: Side note - Hallucinations pretty much what you would expect, the same as ChatGPT4. Immediately tried to tell me to import non existent components from an npm library. That test was without prefixing with 'turn creativity to zero [blah blah]', so will test further with proper prompts. Gemini doesn't seem to allow for custom instructions, so I suppose I will have to add them into an Autohotkey script.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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"Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you" "Gemini Advanced is not yet available in some countries, for work accounts, or for users under a certain age." Learn more: https://login.corp.google.com/request?s=support.corp.google....

Google Work Paying users always get the short end of the stick.

"We're using your personal conversations for training data. Thanks."

This is acceptable. Consumers click without reading, and don't have any strong organizational ability to punish Google for this.

"We're training our AI on the questions of your idiot employees who are inevitably going to submit user PII CSVs or PDFs or even just outright draft emails to suppliers with our tool. Thanks."

You don't want to pick this kind of fight with a corporation, and as a corporation, you don't want this to happen to you.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Just played with Gemini Ultra for like 10-15 mins, and right off the bat, it made mistakes I've never seen GPT-4 do.

To give you an example, I asked Gemini Ultra how to set up a real-time system for a TikTok-like feed that matches card difficulty with user ability. It correctly mentioned "Item Response Theory (IRT)", which was a good start. But when I followed up asking how to implement a real-time IRT system, it suddenly started going off about "Interactive Voice Response (IVR) system" - something totally unrelated and never mentioned before. Never had this kind of mix-up with GPT-4.

https://g.co/gemini/share/f586a497013e

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe so. They haven't announced anything yet but should be getting official launch soon.

Popup for me @ https://gemini.google.com/app : "Bard is now Gemini The best way to get direct access to Google AI All the capabilities that you know and love are still here, and will keep getting better in the Gemini era" So I suppose this is the official launch. ( https://gemini.google.com/app 404'd until I connected my workspace account in bard extensions). Edit: Side note - Hallucinations pretty much what you woul…

This works, thanks!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Just played with Gemini Ultra for like 10-15 mins, and right off the bat, it made mistakes I've never seen GPT-4 do. To give you an example, I asked Gemini Ultra how to set up a real-time system for a TikTok-like feed that matches card difficulty with user ability. It correctly mentioned "Item Response Theory (IRT)", which was a good start. But when I followed up asking how to implement a real-time IRT system, it sud…

From the FAQ:

"Why doesn’t Gemini know what I said earlier in a conversation?

Gemini’s ability to hold context is purposefully limited for now. As Gemini continues to learn, its ability to hold context during longer conversations will improve."

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Well, it says I'm in to 'Bard Advanced' (which is the same as 'Gemini Ultra'). I only did a couple of queries so far, text output seemed only marginally better than 'Gemini Pro', which I was just starting to get decent results with after getting used to prompting. It's possible they'd done a stealth release earlier, obviously need to do a lot of experiments to make a proper comparison with GPT-4.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Just played with Gemini Ultra for like 10-15 mins, and right off the bat, it made mistakes I've never seen GPT-4 do. To give you an example, I asked Gemini Ultra how to set up a real-time system for a TikTok-like feed that matches card difficulty with user ability. It correctly mentioned "Item Response Theory (IRT)", which was a good start. But when I followed up asking how to implement a real-time IRT system, it sud…

It doesn't seem like it's using Gemini Ultra yet. For me it seems like only the interface has been updated since the image generation capabilities are not working.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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> Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you

> Gemini Advanced is not yet available in some countries, for work accounts, or for users under a certain age.

I’m so tired of this bullshit with Google. I can’t tell you how much of a pain it is to PAY Google and then be excluded from things.

Everything from not being able to claim a free chromecast+stadia controller to this. Heck the other day I logged into my Google drive and it warned me I was out of space. I’ve been paying for Google storage for years but something flipped on their backend and the GSuite account someone just took priority over that? So I had to upgrade my GSuite subscription to get enough storage and cancel my Google storage subscription. No notice, no explanation, just complete bullshit.

If I thought I had a safe path forward to remove Google as my email/calendar while maintaining my Google drive/Google account access I would seriously consider it but I fear I’m locked in and would have to start over with Google if I took my domain with me elsewhere.

I thought things might improve after paying for GSuite instead of being on their free tier that they discontinued after a decade but it’s only gotten worse.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#70

Just played with Gemini Ultra for like 10-15 mins, and right off the bat, it made mistakes I've never seen GPT-4 do. To give you an example, I asked Gemini Ultra how to set up a real-time system for a TikTok-like feed that matches card difficulty with user ability. It correctly mentioned "Item Response Theory (IRT)", which was a good start. But when I followed up asking how to implement a real-time IRT system, it sud…

From the FAQ: "Why doesn’t Gemini know what I said earlier in a conversation? Gemini’s ability to hold context is purposefully limited for now. As Gemini continues to learn, its ability to hold context during longer conversations will improve."

Yeah, I saw that in the FAQ, but this was literally my second question in the convo, so not exactly a "long" conversation. Seems like it should be able to handle context for at least a couple of exchanges, right?
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