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Re: Entrepreneurs in Prison

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Unfortunately, the facts don't fit your idea of how things should work. One study found that women who killed their abusive husband were the most severely abused, the most isolated, and basically were all out of options. They often killed after being told something like "In the morning, I am going to kill you.", which they had every reason to believe was absolutely true. They had typically already tried counseling, l…

I'd like to say that I'm sorry for saying anything that came across as me insinuating anything about you, that wasn't my point. My point is that the system is obviously flawed and that we need to work to get that fixed, this includes and is not limited to bringing anyone abusing their spouse to justice, so that no-one, man or woman, should ever suffer through it. (just one of the things that need fixed.) I think we t…

No big. Print is a tough way to communicate.

Fwiw: I think a better answer lies in providing more support for children and families. I typically focus more on providing parenting advice to people with really challenging children in hope of preventing the types of problems that lead to criminal charges rather than addressing what to do after everything has gone wrong. However I am currently homeless, which has me spending more time around very poor people, many of whom have done time. And this crowd references prison differently than the middle and upper middle class people I typically have been surrounded by.

Anyway, time to go eat. Have a great day.

Re: Entrepreneurs in Prison

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It isn't controversial, no, which is the problem. Well, let me back up a little first. Criminal penalties as deterrent do work up to a certain point, and there is nothing wrong with embracing them to a civilized and practical degree. But the retributive nature of the American justice system is beyond fetishistic. This is harmful for two reasons. First, evidence suggests that draconian penalties are counterproductive…

I agree with you. OP seemed to imply that America was unique for punishing criminals. I'm not American and can't comment on America's justice system specifically, but punishment seems like a fairly non-controversial purpose for prisons all around the world. I'm all for rehabilitation but it has to be balanced with the punishment component. Thinking that punishment is "useless vengeance" is beyond naive.

I was not trying to imply that America was unique in punishing its criminals, but that America is retributive to an unusual degree. The "useless vengeance" comment was someone else.
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