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Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by piotrkaminski »

sauwan wrote: post #59
piotrkaminski wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't any sane SSO implementation let you recover and switch to a password simply by proving ownership of the email address via a challenge email?

>If Google chose to just ban my account

This assumes you're using a consumer Gmail account, I guess? If so, yeah, you're SOL. But I think as long as you have your owns domain you should be fine, even if you hook it up to Google Workspace for email, since you can always switch it to another provider. (And yeah, I realize this is not something civilians are likely to be able to figure out / do...)

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by brnt »

segphault wrote: post #35

I really wish gitea offered a paid plan for individual users so that there was a good alternative to Github available for personal private git hosting without having to self host.

Codeberg takes donations last I checked.

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by cloudhead »

We'll hopefully have a real alternative to these centralized platforms when Radicle[0] gets closer to core feature parity with GitHub. For many, this will be sometime this year, for others it might take another year or two.

It's really scary to have a single platform be able to take away what is essentially your portfolio, resume, social profile, webhost (github pages) and collaboration platform all in one go, with no explanation or recourse available. It shouldn't be that way.

We're inching towards a Radicle v1.0 release that will provide some stability and a basic feature-set for hosting and collaboration in a fully "sovereign" way. If you're interested in helping out or learning more, feel free to drop me an email: cloudhead@radicle.xyz or come by our Zulip[1].

[0]: https://radicle.xyz

[1]: https://radicle.zulipchat.com/

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by ibejoeb »

arealaccount wrote: post #19
superkuh wrote: post #3

Everyone centralizing in Github is very, very unhealthy and fragile.

I get losing your PRs and comments, and pipelines. But if you get banned from Github, can't you just pick different remote and keep rolling? If it's about the PRs and comments, and pipelines, then those are features specific to Github so where is the fault for acting unhealthy?

PRs are useful, and so is the discussion system. These things are at par with other platforms that are pretty much equally barrier-free.

Any of the workflow automation stuff might be more difficult to replace, but I haven't had an especially good experience with it anyway. I don't know about everyone else, but it's been pretty unreliable and fragile. Even the Azure integration, which ought to be first-class, is pretty opaque. I really wanted to lean into that stuff, but for now, I'm happy running my own.

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by vinni2 »

smivan wrote: post #37
simonw wrote: post #14

This is one of my nightmares... I have 800+ repos on GitHub and I dread the thought of some weird machine learning algorithm somewhere deciding that my account should be banned. A lot of the stuff I care about on there is backed up elsewhere, but not everything. I even have a tool for this: https://datasette.io/tools/github-to-sqlite - which exports issues, issue comments etc to a SQLite database via the GitHub API.…

I have the same nightmare, so to mitigate risk I run a self hosted instance of Gitea [1] and set up nightly mirroring. The folder with the mirrors is then uploaded to a backup provider, in my case Borgbase [2] 1. https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea 2. https://www.borgbase.com/

Does it also backup PRs ans issues and all the comments?

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by chrisjc »

rcoveson wrote: post #16
beanjuiceII wrote: post #4

calm down its already back

If it happens to you: 1. Remain calm 2. Tweet at your 66k followers 3. Briefly wait while the dozens of those that work at GitHub trip over each other getting your account reactivated

Missed a step

1. Be co-founder and former CEO

2. Remain calm

3. Tweet at your 66k followers

4. Briefly wait while the dozens of those that work at GitHub trip over each other getting your account reactivated

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by weikju »

flowck wrote: post #45
simonw wrote: post #14

This is one of my nightmares... I have 800+ repos on GitHub and I dread the thought of some weird machine learning algorithm somewhere deciding that my account should be banned. A lot of the stuff I care about on there is backed up elsewhere, but not everything. I even have a tool for this: https://datasette.io/tools/github-to-sqlite - which exports issues, issue comments etc to a SQLite database via the GitHub API.…

I stopped reading at "I have 800+ repos on GitHub". DUDE, it's time to back up your account to some other service. Anything can happen.

You should’ve kept reading.

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by janosdebugs »

bee_rider wrote: post #18
Kluggy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.

Git seems to work pretty well p2p without the hub.

Git LFS would like a word.

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by mcmoor »

dave4420 wrote: post #48
Kluggy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.

You can tell when a decentralised technology becomes successful, because then someone will build something centralised on top of it.

This should be a named theorem

Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub

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Post by yawaramin »

piotrkaminski wrote: post #61
sauwan wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Google chose to just ban my account

This assumes you're using a consumer Gmail account, I guess? If so, yeah, you're SOL. But I think as long as you have your owns domain you should be fine, even if you hook it up to Google Workspace for email, since you can always switch it to another provider. (And yeah, I realize this is not something civilians are likely to be able to figure out / do...)

For the people who know how to do that, they are just not going to use SSO in the first place. They will just use email+password+OTP.
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