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The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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Shrinkage is shoplifting.

I believe shrinkage is most commonly used by retailers to mean theft by employees. Shoplifting is customer theft.

Shrinkage is any loss of product, hence shrinkage of inventory.

(I worked at a grocery store for four years, the same company my dad has worked at since 1977)

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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You can link directly to 4:10 in the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqBbr7Ewsw&t=4m10s

Holy shit that's brilliant. I admittedly haven't been to Youtube in forever, but that actually got me to click, if only to find out how (other than altering the querystring by hand) you did it. I still didn't see how to do it though. Is that a logged-in option perhaps or am I just missing something?

When you are at the time you want, right click on the video, and copy the link with the time.

"Copy video URL at current time"

That's all there is too it :-)

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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I'm usually pretty disappointed, because on a failed opening attempt I end up crushing those chips, and then feel like I didn't really get my money's worth.

It's alright. Chips and cereal are sold by weight, not volume. Some settling (or crushing) of contents may have occurred during shipping and extraction.

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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Clamshell packaging was made for retail shelves. To prevent shrinkage and increase product visibility, it was designed to be transparent while simultaneously difficult to open. The explosion of Amazon and other online retailers made the advantages of clamshell packaging moot. However if you are a manufacturer, it may not be economically feasible to produce two different types of packaging for different retailers so l…

> To prevent shrinkage and increase product visibility, Which is also a feature to discourage shoplifting.

note: i am an idiot and don't know what "shrinkage" means, disregard this post.

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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"The point here is that while technical options exist to prevent premature opening of the bag, such as reducing the initial air pressure in the bag, attempting to add this to the existing processing equipment would be a nightmare. So it was necessary to increase the seal strength." You could also reduce the air pressure in the factory , e.g. by building it in one of the aforementioned high-altitude regions.

And/or heat up the air filling the bag. As air cools, the volume decreases. The right solution would be to squeeze to depress the bag a bit as it's sealed. Increasing the seal strength is a quick and dirty hack, but as we've all learned too well from software, the right solutions often got trumped by quick and dirty hacks. The customers just have to live with the consequence.

Your ideas have other suboptimal consequences though - sucked-in bags don't look as nice on the shelf, and in fact they look smaller. This makes them less attractive and thus less likely to be purchased.

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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agreed - and then lets ask them about the total fabrication that they are biodegradable.

What makes you say it's a fabrication?

they may work in a 'proper' compost, but i can testify that they do not degrade in mine

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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Biodegradable... eventually. edit: So I looked it up and it should only take 14 weeks in an active compost pile. I wonder if anyone has ever tested it?

Almost no change after 25 weeks in a home compost pile: http://cockeyed.com/science/compost_chips/sunchips.php

Interesting. I'm skeptical of the marketing because 14 weeks doesn't seem like long enough. I'm also skeptical of this experiment though.

Sunchips specifies 14 weeks in a hot and active compost. A new compost pile (like in the experiment) would not be very active compared to an old one, especially since he didn't add any worms to it but he did get the water and turning right. He also mentions that it was cold and rainy in the weeks after he started his compost. An old compost would shrug this off but it would have a negative effect on a newly started compost.

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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I find this article to be quite frustrating. It's like reading about how some process was too slow, so they looked at the variables which include a faster processor, more RAM, and larger storage. Ultimately, they chose more RAM and developed a new algorithm and all was solved. But then they never tell you what the algorithm is. Or why it allowed them to keep within the constraints of the same processor and storage.

In this case, it's a new adhesive. But how was that developed? What makes the new adhesive better suited to high-pressure applications while keeping the temperature and time constant? Inquiring geeks want to know!

Re: The guy who made it so difficult to open your bag of potato chips

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Holy shit that's brilliant. I admittedly haven't been to Youtube in forever, but that actually got me to click, if only to find out how (other than altering the querystring by hand) you did it. I still didn't see how to do it though. Is that a logged-in option perhaps or am I just missing something?

When you are at the time you want, right click on the video, and copy the link with the time. "Copy video URL at current time" That's all there is too it :-)

Or add &t=XmYs to the URL (where X is minutes and Y is seconds).
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