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Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Re: Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Post by db48x »

WhackyIdeas wrote: post #44
adastra22 wrote: post #15

The amount of support give by other posters here for Linus’ insane antisocial behavior is crazy. I would never, ever contribute upstream to Linux so long as Linus is involved. My time is too valuable to deal with his BS. He should realize the hostile environment he creates drives away contributors.

I agree, it is shocking. And with my other comments being downvoted, it’s incredible that people are so up his arse that they live in a bubble thinking that it’s ok to belittle someone like that. Imagine working under someone like that… wow.

> …it’s ok to belittle someone…

Did we read the same email? He only commented about how bad the code is; he said nothing about the person who wrote it.

Re: Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

WhackyIdeas wrote: post #42
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you can't imagine yourself acting such a way doesn't mean that it falls outside the spectrum of "somewhat acceptable". It just means that you're probably way more careful with your emotions and tone than Linus. There's pros and cons to both, but in general, yea people are different.

Did you actually read through the entire thread of emails? I did.

Yes I did too. What's your point?

Re: Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Post by hasty_pudding »

PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #45
hasty_pudding wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what did he use?

git was implemented in C. Someone asked him why he didn't choose C++ for it and he went on a rant basically saying C++ was bad, people that use it are subpar programmers, and that one of the advantages of choosing C is to weed out people who think C++ would have been a good choice. oddly enough I can't seem to find the original rant, if someone can provide that I'd be greatful. edit: to give context to my original po…

> that one of the advantages of choosing C is to weed out people who think C++ would have been a good choice.

Im pretty sure that was a little tongue in cheek. Thats hilarious though.

Re: Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Post by hasty_pudding »

PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #56
shrimp_emoji wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was talking about not letting C++ code into the Linux kernel. As a C++ programmer, my cope for this is that back then's C++ was today's C#. It was the even-higher-level, comfier, shortcut language, loved by noobs and normies who aren't true hardcore nerds (identified by the masochism of choosing to write C) and write code that makes you cringe. (Although the situation is better today since C# excludes classes of e…

I found the initial post and response on a github issue of all places. https://github.com/shawnanastasio/BasilC/issues/9 > C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itse…

> even if the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.

Thats funny as hell. I love Linus.

Re: Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

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Post by mkehrt »

adastra22 wrote: post #15

The amount of support give by other posters here for Linus’ insane antisocial behavior is crazy. I would never, ever contribute upstream to Linux so long as Linus is involved. My time is too valuable to deal with his BS. He should realize the hostile environment he creates drives away contributors.

Yeah, the replies here are all nuts. Linus is acting like a child. It's completely inappropriate of him to treat anyone like this.

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Post by mickleby »

ofcourseyoudo wrote: post #57
Amorymeltzer wrote: post #16

I really suggest looking at the reply: https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2401.3/04254.html > I know nothing about what they're talking, but the response appears reasonable and mature, seems to engage in the substantive issues without responding to the anger/flaming, and looks like it intends to de-escalate and move forward. Torvalds' reply to that is more measured https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2…

completely agree, when you look at the full thread, no one even blinks an eye at his rant. They just proceed forward, and when they do so, Linus responds pretty normally (until his next condescending rant). Seems like people in this group have pretty much gotten used to him being a condescending ass every dozen messages, filter out the posturing, take his genuine suggestion, and work from there. It doesn't seem to bo…

I don't share your perspective. How do you suggest to discourage underinformed unskilled contribution? It seems to me taking your approach will divert all time and all resources to irrelevant tasks, tasks not pushing code forward.
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