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Not sure who this is aimed at? The avg programmer probably doesn’t have the gear on hand to run this at the required pace Cool nonetheless

It's aimed at OpenAI's moat. Making sure they don't accumulate too much of one. No one actually has to use this, it just needs to be clear that LLM as a service won't be super high margin because competition can simply start building on Meta's open source releases.

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Llama is getting better and better, I heard this and Llama 3 will start to be good as GPT-4. Who would have thought that Meta, that has been chucking billions on the metaverse is on the forefront of Open Source AI. Not to mention their stock is up and they are worth $1TN, again. Not sure how I feel about this given the fact of all the scandals that have plagued them and the massive 1BN fine from the EU, Cambridge Ana…

It does seem like the nicest thing Facebook have ever done by giving so much to the open source LLM scene, I know that it might have been started by a leaker, but they have given so much voluntarily. I mean don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the company but I do really like some of the choices they have made recently.

But I do wonder in the back of my mind why. And I should be suspicious of their angle and I will keep thinking about it. Is it paranoid to think that maybe their angle is putting almost some kind of metadata by style of code being unique to different machines that they can trace generated code to different people? Is that their angle or am I biased in remembering who they have been for the past decade?

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Given how good some of the smaller code models are (such as Deepseek Coder at 6.7B), I'll be curious to see what this 70B model is capable of!

Phind [1] uses the larger 34B Model. Still, I'm also curious what they are gonna do with this one.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38088538

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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post #61
post #23

Not sure who this is aimed at? The avg programmer probably doesn’t have the gear on hand to run this at the required pace Cool nonetheless

It's aimed at OpenAI's moat. Making sure they don't accumulate too much of one. No one actually has to use this, it just needs to be clear that LLM as a service won't be super high margin because competition can simply start building on Meta's open source releases.

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There is a bait and switch going on, and sam altman or mark zuckerberg are the first to tell you. “No one can compete with us, but it’s cute to try! Make applications though” —almost direct quote from Sam Altman. I have 64gb and an RTX 3090 and a macbook M3, and I already can’t run a lot of the newest models even in their quantized form. The business model requires this to be a subscription service. At least as of to…

A 70B model is quite accessible; just rent a data center GPU hourly. There are easy deployment services that are getting better all the time. Smaller models can be derived from the big ones to run on a MacBook running Apple Silicon. While the compute won’t be a match for Nvidia hardware, a MacBook can pack 128GB of RAM and run enormous models - albeit slowly.

Ok, well now that we’ve downvoted me below the visibility threshold, I was being sincere. And Altman did say that. I am not a hater.

So. Maybe we could help other people figure out why VRAM is maxing out. I think it has to do with various new platforms leaking memory.

In my case, I suspect ollama and diffusers are not actually evicting VRAM. nvidia-smi shows it in one case, but I haven’t figured it out yet.

Hey, my point remains. The models are going to get too expensive for me, personally, to run locally. I suspect we’ll default into subscriptions to APIs because the upgrade slope is too steep.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can run it on a Macbook M1/M2 with 64GB of RAM.

How? It's larger than 64GB.

Quantization is highly effective at reducing memory and storage requirements, and it barely has any impact on quality (unless you take it to the extreme). Approximately no one should ever be running the full fat fp16 models during inference of any of these LLMs. That would be incredibly inefficient.

I run 33B parameter models on my RTX 3090 (24GB VRAM) no problem. 70B should easily fit into 64GB of RAM.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Llama is getting better and better, I heard this and Llama 3 will start to be good as GPT-4. Who would have thought that Meta, that has been chucking billions on the metaverse is on the forefront of Open Source AI. Not to mention their stock is up and they are worth $1TN, again. Not sure how I feel about this given the fact of all the scandals that have plagued them and the massive 1BN fine from the EU, Cambridge Ana…

I'm really curious what their goal is

Prevent OpenAI from dominating the market, and at the same time have the research community enhance your models and identify key use cases.

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Given how good some of the smaller code models are (such as Deepseek Coder at 6.7B), I'll be curious to see what this 70B model is capable of!

AlphaCodium is the newest kid on the block that's SoTA pass@5 on coding tasks (authors claim at least 2x better than GPT4): https://github.com/Codium-ai/AlphaCodium As for small models, Microsoft has been making noise with the unreleased WaveCoder-Ultra-6.7b ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.14187 ).

Are weights available?

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Can someone explain Meta's strategy with the open source models here? Genuine question, I don't fully undestand.

(Please don't say "commoditize your complement" without explaining what exactly they're commoditizing...)

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