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Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
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Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess that's a consequence of directly causing the deaths of 346 people. We are right to scrutinise them harshly.
Here is a list of the top ten causes of death in the US [1]. You will have a much better chance of reducing your risk of dying by giving up drinking and eating fatty foods than by giving up flying on a Boeing aircraft. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
And how does that negate Boeing's maintenance woes?
Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#63Had a physics teacher in highschool, worked on a submarine. Told me that with government equipment like submarines, workers replace parts based on dates regardless of the wear and tear of the part. "If this screw is supposed to last 10 years, we're ordered to replace it in 7 years regardless of the condition." With for profit companies, they'd try to push the parts to last 12 years instead of 10 by inspecting them an…
It’s called predictive maintenance and it is the norm in many critical industries. Replacing equipment every fixed number of X years (no matter what the condition of the equipment is) is wasteful, costly disruptive and does not actually guarantee better reliability. (although it makes people feel better). Most predictive maintenance is done with data — updated sensor data processed through a mathematical model derive…
The other thing replacing the part can do (but not always) is guarantee you still have a source for those parts in the future. That's important for the military that might need to make more without much notice.
Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#64Here comes the confirmation bias. Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad as there actually do seem to be some significant issues at Boeing. Hopefully, the result is an intense shakeup resulting in increased focus on quality.
> Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. It is a safety critical industry. Did you expect something different? Would we be "better served" by acting differently? The goal of someone flying is to get there alive, not win the war against bias.
> Would we be "better served" by acting differently?
We would be "better served" by actually scrutinizing [all] the parties that need scrutinizing, not latching on to one scapegoat out of fear and sensationalism as opposed to actual safety consciousness.
Pearl-clutching at Boeing about an aircraft the company delivered in the _1990s_ does absolutely nothing to "get [someone] there alive". Where is your outrage at e.g. Delta for flying a 30+ year old plane that has clearly been poorly inspected/maintained?
Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wasn't joking, I'm not going to use the American spelling just because I'm talking about how Americans use the word. They really do use "wheel" and "tyre" interchangeably.
I'm an American, and I disagree, mostly. I've never heard someone say a "flat wheel"; it's always flat tire. Also if an American says a wheel came off when they mean a tire, they misspoke/misunderstand what they are talking about. There are plenty of Americans that know next to nothing about their vehicle despite it usually being the most expensive or second most expensive thing they own. Disclaimer: Midwest USA here…
This, 200%.
I can't think of anyone other than the most archetypal ditz (think, 'Friends' character, Phoebe) who would conflate the idea of the rubber part that touches the ground with the metal or other hard material the first term is mounted on. (Naming abstractions removed for clarity.)
Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#66From youtube comments:
"You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel"
Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an American, and I disagree, mostly. I've never heard someone say a "flat wheel"; it's always flat tire. Also if an American says a wheel came off when they mean a tire, they misspoke/misunderstand what they are talking about. There are plenty of Americans that know next to nothing about their vehicle despite it usually being the most expensive or second most expensive thing they own. Disclaimer: Midwest USA here…
Here is a sample of common Americans casually referring to wheels as tyres, which I found from less than a minute of googling. https://www.espn.com/racing/story/_/id/37768342/fan-vehicle-... https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/13ww9d1/fan_with_ve... https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/14yprzk/ot_tire_c... https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/13utnr9/... https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsuck…
Yes there are Americans who don't get it. But if you work at a tire shop (I did for a while), the majority of the customers get it right.