Order/license chaos for VMware products after Broadcom takeover

Post by alphager » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 6:57 PM UTC

iforgotpassword wrote: post #56

newsclues wrote: post #44

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They have budgeted for lawsuits and don’t care. It’s a feature not a bug to get rid of clients who won’t be milked to the bone.

How does that make sense? Had they chosen a slow gratuitous path those customers might've switched to other products, now they've been burned and will think twice before choosing VMware again.

Post by The_Colonel » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 7:00 PM UTC

mixdup wrote: post #28

sofixa wrote: post #15

It's embarrassing how poorly Broadcom have rushed into throwing the baby out with the bathwater for no reason. They could have taken a slower approach instead of doing everything as soon as the deal officially closed... I hope they lose as much business as possible over this, everyone should be looking into alternatives because they're such a shitshow.

Yeah, I don't get why they just did the Elon thing of slash and burn without any plan. I get that they want to upend the business model, focus on whatever end of the market, etc. Why not do that in a planned out, measured way? Why confirm literally every concern people had when the acquisition was announced? Why get yourself into what will obviously be a ton of lawsuits over people who can't use the product they alre…

Post by oarla » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 7:53 PM UTC

thayne wrote: post #39

Why does the SEC keep allowing acquisitions like this? And why are there not more legal consequences to this kind of behavior after an acquisition?

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 8:11 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #49

hitpointdrew wrote: post #32

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Like what? There is no real open source comparable option to VMware if are running your own hypervisors. KVM? Not even close, you need a host of other tools to get what you have with esxi and vcenter. You’ll spend months just finding and configuring a disjointed hodgepodge of tools to get what you could have setup in a day. And even then you have a fargile system that is likely to break any time you update one tool i…

> There is no real open source comparable option to VMware if are running your own hypervisors Well the first question is, do you actually need hypervisors? In a lot of cases, the answer is no, or not for many of the workloads. In others it's 100% yes. Then, after you've decided you actually do need a hypervisor, there's actually tons of choice - Proxmox (very good and advanced KVM wrapper), Nutanix's AHV, oVirt (fut…

Post by icedchai » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 8:30 PM UTC

gertrunde wrote: post #58

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Of course, they build their own tooling. They'd have to build their own to operate at scale. For a small business or home lab operation that needs dozens of VMs, that already exists (as pointed out by another poster, who mentioned libvirt and virt-manager.)

libvirt, virt-manager, et al are all perfectly suitable tools for an average member of the HN audience, or someone playing with a home lab, or any number of other technically proficient users - but those people are not the people who are buying vmware's products. And virt-manager comes across from their docs as a bit on the basic side, proxmox and ovirt look a bit more polished - but again, companies are often wary o…