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Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#61
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

Except for if you want to use dual monitors, etc. etc. Every time I've tried Linux, I've had to dive into the terminal and paste commands from the internet to get normal things to work.

Only two monitors?

I've no problem with more than that. I don't know what hardware you're using, but that's atypical.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

This is how I imagine the error code looks. How else can you even return the wrong error?

```c#

public class FooError {

public Message(){

  //TODO: I copy pasted this from somewhere else. I still need to update to a meaningful message

  return "this is a BarError"

  }
} ```

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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post #54
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When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

This is why I am extra vigilant, pendantic and strict when writing or reviewing code that handles exception and error paths. More than happy-path code, I want this to be simple, rediculously easy and very loosely coupled. No inheritance, no abstractions, very shallow dependency trees and so on. Just once too often did a bug in exception handling cause a system to go down - It is often not or hardly covered in tests (…

This attitude seems a little silly to me—being "extra vigilant, pedantic and strict" about happy-path code would necessarily imply the same about "exception and error paths". Generally speaking, bugs mostly appear in a binary fashion and not in varying degrees—ie your code either reflect expected behavior or doesn't.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#64
The issue with the WinRE environment and Bitlocker bypass exploit has been known since at least last year with a January 2023 KB addressing the issue, but the WinRE environment still needed to be updated manually. Looks like 12 months later if you hadn’t already dealt with it, another issue can arise according to this article?

More information on the fix can be found discussed here: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/10atdqe/is_bitloc...

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#65
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

I use Linux. You absolutely need to drop down to the command line at times. Upgrading my Kennel, or Graphics driver breaks something like 20% of the time for me.

Strange.

I've been on Linux some 28 years now, and it used to be like that¹. But today? I haven't had a kernel or graphics driver update failing on me for years. Maybe 10+ years? Granted, my Linux is the most boring, hardly-configged Unbuntu LTS. Boring hardware. Boring drivers. Everything optimized to "Just Work" - My machine pays my bills and if I'm down for a day because I fiddled around with some fancy custom trackpad module, or special Bluetooth whatevers, it's costing me actual money.

I'm certainly in my terminal 80% of the time (developing in nvim etc), so can't say much about how much it is needed by someone who doesn't know or use that terminal.

¹ My personal worst was at a conference doing a presentation for a 200+ audience having to recompile X, while entertaining the audience, because the beamer wasn't found and X crashed on it.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#66
post #7

When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

This is how I imagine the error code looks. How else can you even return the wrong error? ```c# public class FooError { public Message(){ //TODO: I copy pasted this from somewhere else. I still need to update to a meaningful message return "this is a BarError" } } ```

"Oops, something went wrong"

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

I use Linux. You absolutely need to drop down to the command line at times. Upgrading my Kennel, or Graphics driver breaks something like 20% of the time for me.

That's way higher than my experience.

I had a kernel update break a memory management API that JavaScript engines use about a year ago, and then before that my last kernel induced update breakage was in like 2012 with fglrx.

That broken kernel update also would not have made it into more conservative distros, as the change was rolled back 5 days later.

Meanwhile I have previously experienced the windows issue in this topic in like 2019. The windows 7 installer created even smaller reserved partitions than the windows 10 one (100 Vs 500 mb iirc), so users with systems upgraded from 7 to 10 would have seen this sooner.

And for completeness sake I've also experienced OS X fail at updating to High Sierra as that updater didn't like something about the way my employers provisioning software had set up the partition layout some years earlier.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

I use Linux. You absolutely need to drop down to the command line at times. Upgrading my Kennel, or Graphics driver breaks something like 20% of the time for me.

What distro do you use?

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#69
post #55
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

I use Linux. You absolutely need to drop down to the command line at times. Upgrading my Kennel, or Graphics driver breaks something like 20% of the time for me.

I assume that you’re an Nvidia user. This is most likely the cause of your problem. Linux just works on Intel or AMD.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#70
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Glad to see that Microsoft is making Windows more and more similar to Linux by every passing day :)

Yeah, this isn't Linux. Linux is better than this these days.

On the current LTS version of Ubuntu, I had to drop down to the terminal to adjust the mousewheel's scroll speed.
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