Live data from Hacker News

YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

old.reddit.com

61–70 of 98 posts

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#61
post #58
post #39

If you’re not paying for it, you are the product. Simple as that.

No it is not _that_ simple. I paid for my Android phone and i paid my Windows licence.

Could you please elaborate on this? I seriously do not understand what you are implying.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#66

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

Maybe the value proposition is not that high if people don’t want to pay, or watch ads.

I certainly won’t pay for YouTube, and if I have to deal with ads, I just won’t watch.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#67

Please YouTube, make things even worse by embedding ads into the video itself, like twitch does. After I had to watch the same ad over and over for the new Zelda, then Aquaman 2 , I eventually managed to delete my twitch account and stop losing my time there. Hopefully will be the same with youtube, I didn't watch a single ad in 12 years, I don't understand how people does it.without sponsorblock and ublock, youtube…

Paying because a service is making itself suck on purpose to create “fake value” to make you relent to their suckage is objectionable business practice, and all those that support YouTube by buying premium need to think a little deeper about the kind of future their are supporting with their money: you’re paying for pain relief instead of innovation and, frankly, condemning the Internet.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#68

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

I was willing to pay for "no ads", YouTube had the perfect product for me, Premium Lite, which I gladly paid for 2 years until I got an email in October:

> Subject: Your Premium Lite membership will be discontinued

> Thank you for being one of our first Premium Lite members.

> We’re writing to let you know that after October 25, 2023, we will no longer offer your version of Premium Lite. While we understand this may be disappointing news, we continue to work on different versions of Premium Lite as we incorporate feedback from our users, creators, and partners. [emphasis mine on the bullshit]

> To show our appreciation, we’re offering a 1 - month trial of Premium (even if you’ve had a trial before). With Premium, you can watch videos ad - free, offline, and in the background. Plus, stream music ad - free in the YouTube Music app.

I don't need nor want the other features, just no ads, and paid for it for 2 years. Then YouTube decided to fuck me over and force me into a more expensive subscription tier, fuck them, I'll use ad blockers for as long as they work.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#69
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed the youtube music radio feature has gotten better in the past few months

It's never gotten back to the level of Google Play Music. They killed the wrong product.

10,000%. They had something on Spotify. Now, not really.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#70

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

YouTube is far, far, FAR more profitable than just its supporting infrastructure. It’s a joke to require ad loads that rival cable television and all its dedicated networks and expense and set top boxes and sales and installation requirements in order to “support” Internet video delivery. The argument holds no water.

The solution is to allow the people who want to pay for premium value to pay and to push delivery onto peer-to-peer delivery like BitTorrent did 20 years ago so that the expense is minimal and shared by the people who actually watch by hosting what they consume.

It’s not hard. Don’t buy the corporate lies on this one.

This is 99 percent less expensive delivery of content YouTube gets for free but poor Google needs help with expenses? Not likely.

They should be encouraging premium subscription by creating premium services and and supporting it with sponsorship for premium content and access to content creators. We already have many working models like this. They just have too many Hollywood execs and MBAs who are so deeply uncreative and unable to be risk takers or jeopardize their cushy job by making innovative suggestions like this that they can’t come up with any other path. They have a culture problem with their products honestly.

We don’t need Internet video to be shit cable over IP networks. Google could actually innovate here.

Post reply on HN