This reminds me of the synanon cult that put a rattlesnake in some critical lawyer's mailbox.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-28/paul-mor...
eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case
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#62What's more surprising to me is seeing a story about Ebay that shows the date 2024 rather than 2004
ebay sellers are way more respectable than ebay management.
I'm an ebay seller and I'd never send someone spiders, unless, they paid for them.
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#63> Baugh's lawyers said he faced pressure from former eBay CEO Devin Wenig to reign in the Steiners over their coverage of the company. Mr Wenig, who stepped down in 2019, has not been charged in the case and denies knowledge of the harassment campaign. I'm no D.A. but isn't this the spot where the prosecutor offers Baugh a reduced sentence in return for testifying against Wenig?
Wenig maybe made a "counter offer" to Baugh of some sort? With such people, you never know. Maybe a horse head or some other refreshing token of appreciation.
that would be witness tampering, a major crime in itself.
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#64Apologies for titling from deeper in article, but to do otherwise would be burying the lede. Also, life mirrors fiction: https://xkcd.com/325/
Oh I think we can definitely let this one slide. The common good has rarely been better served.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder what the rules on sending live specimens through the post are. Knowingly not using the right markings on the package can cause issues. When they ask you if you have any of "these" things in the package and you then say no would be a federal crime. Messing with the postal inspectors tends to be wildly underappreciated at the repercussions they can inflict.
> I wonder what the rules on sending live specimens through the post are. Wonder no more: https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c5_008.htm (I've mailed bee nucs to my local post office, it's usually uneventful, once a newer employee was a little nervous having it around)
Context for fellow leaders; nuc is short for nucleus and is basically a small colony or a place a small colony might live. It is not short for bee nunchucks as I had assumed
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#66> The acts of intimidation included sending live insects, a foetal pig and a funeral wreath to the Steiners' home in Natick, Massachusetts. If someone I knew claimed that eBay execs were sending them things like this I wouldn’t believe them. It’s like something from a TV show.
I wonder where the execs got hold of those things. Did they buy it on eBay and have it shipped from a seller? Or did they go and put a dead pig in a box themselves? Messed up either way, and good that an end was put to their harassment of the bloggers.
Probably ordered on Amazon.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, answering my own question in case others are interested. Seems the bloggers were being followed by a van at one point and they were able to get the plates, which ultimately linked back to ebay. I keep being impressed by ai's ability to perform research for you. "Found" the answer here: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=xzz0am8o9ruxo4wztcc4v7xp
First time I hear of "phind", nice that it shows the sources on one side, and the summary/answer on the other. I wonder if the sources it lists are completely authoritative to its answer (i.e. the answer adds no new/hallucinated stuff that's not in the sources), or whether the sources are just "relevant".
I wouldn’t say the sources are 100% authoritative but in my experience the answers are basically what the sources say - haven’t experienced hallucinations on phind after months of daily use. Depending on the case it is still good to confirm with the source.
I love that it gives you a good summary of the source and links to it. It’s my replacement for trad search engines now.
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#69The filings said the couple had been left "emotionally, psychologically, and physically" terrorised. I always find it interesting that, when people sue other people/companies for some kind of harassment, they have to claim something like this. Shouldn’t it be obvious? Like, they got weird stuff by mail and got stalked. That should be enough? What if they didn’t actually got scared, what if they laughed at it? They we…
> they got weird stuff by mail and got stalked
The stalking is self evident. The bugs in a box thing is immature, but unlikely someone can get damages on per se.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
(IANAL) The amount you win in a lawsuit has to be based on actual damages so if you want to sue for emotional distress it has to fit the legal definition which depends on the jurisdiction. Since emotional distress isn't bound to any hospital bills or other quantifiable harm, it generally pays quite a bit more.
Damages shouldn't be subjective but based on the acts committed.
> Damages shouldn't be subjective but based on the acts committed
Congratulations, you’ve turned the courts into a contest between theoretical models of what an act is “worth” instead of considering the facts and circumstances at hand.