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They can't really shut Google Cloud down and still be charging people to exit.
And if they had suddenly seen the light on egress fees then surely they would have cut egress fees everywhere..... the fact that it's only on account closure is kinda suspicious.
Looks like it's a response to the recent cloud services market investigation by the CMA [1]. Which highlighted "Egress fees harm competition by creating barriers to switching and multi-cloud leading to cloud service providers entrenching their position" [2]. It's also interesting that they are calling out problems with software licensing, as that is another thing the CMA is investigating in their cloud market review.…
If they remove the fees, then competition might be pressured to do so (as a marketing response). Thus making it easier for people to switch to Google.
Looks like it's a response to the recent cloud services market investigation by the CMA [1]. Which highlighted "Egress fees harm competition by creating barriers to switching and multi-cloud leading to cloud service providers entrenching their position" [2]. It's also interesting that they are calling out problems with software licensing, as that is another thing the CMA is investigating in their cloud market review.…
It's also smart Game Theory. If they remove the fees, then competition might be pressured to do so (as a marketing response). Thus making it easier for people to switch to Google.
I’m betting we will see GCP added to the list of killed by Google in 2025.
All over the Internet people are slapping google on the back for..... pretty much nothing. In fact much of the praise seems to be worded as though Google had dropped all egress fees.
Google continues to charge the nothing-short-of-highway-robbery 12 cents per gigabyte unless you are in Australia in which case its 19 cents per gigabyte. This is astoundingly bad value.
What are people hailing Google's "free to exit" in such glowing terms. Even herein the comments people are cheering for Google.
Worth noting at this point that Cloudflare R2 charges 0 cents per gigabyte egress.
https://cloud.google.com/exit-cloud
* Free data transfers related to Google Cloud Exit are available on Premium Tier Network Service Tier
* Only data residing in Google Cloud data storage and data management products are covered
* You must report any changes to your migration timeline set out in your request form to the Google Cloud Support team
* You must submit your free data transfer request prior to the termination of your Google Cloud agreement
* Google Cloud reserves the right to audit movement of customers' data away from Google Cloud for compliance with program terms and conditions
The fine print: https://cloud.google.com/exit-cloud * Free data transfers related to Google Cloud Exit are available on Premium Tier Network Service Tier * Only data residing in Google Cloud data storage and data management products are covered * You must report any changes to your migration timeline set out in your request form to the Google Cloud Support team * You must submit your free data transfer request prior…
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> The industry standard Pfft... > for peering is paying the 95th percentile of egress or ingress depending on whichever is greater. Ingress is free for these clouds because egress > ingress overall How about customers pay for actual usage, rather than some [fake] averaged-across-all-customers usage?
Why would the cloud provider charge for usage that doesn't actually cost them money? Unless usage patterns drastically change industry-wide, the ingress really doesn't matter to them. The egress does. It seems entirely reasonable to look more skeptically at cloud providers' exact charges vs cost for egress, particularly when high egress fees might contribute to lock-in, and when the public price sheet vs the preferre…
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The whole word smacks of Bellhead thinking. With ethernet you put a frame on the wire and hope.
The term “non-blocking” may well originate with circuit switching, but Ethernet switches have referred to the behavior of supporting full line rate between any combination of inputs and outputs as “non-blocking” for a long time. (I wouldn’t call myself an expert on switching, but I learned IOS before there was a thing called iOS, and I think this usage predates me by a decent amount.) > With ethernet you put a frame…
Exactly. Network endpoints infer things about how to behave optimally. Then they put their frame on the wire and hope. The things that make it possible to use those networks at high load ratios are in the smart endpoints: pacing, entropy, flow rate control, etc. It has nothing at all to do with the network itself. The network is not gold plated, it's very basic.