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Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

jmward01 wrote: post #40

Aviation is safe. An issue happened and appropriate steps have immediately happened and in the end an already incredibly safe industry will be even safer. If a car has an issue we don't blink and we loose nearly 40k people a year in the US alone, but a plane has an issue and we panic. Yes, panic. This is not rational or helpful and is a huge reason why aviation is so antiquated. You want flying cars? Stop panicking a…

The goings on at Boeing this past decade or so suggest nothing is "working as it should". They killed hundreds of people trying to play silly games with safety regs. Hundreds of them.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by bostonsre »

Sirizarry wrote: post #36
alpb wrote: post #26

Are you less safe on a 737 MAX than driving to the airport in a car? Genuinely curious, I’m trying to understand if this whole saga is statistically significant.

What isn’t significant about Boeing consistently failing in the construction and quality of the 737 MAX? How does comparing it to driving to the airport prove anything? Scratch that, it proves nothing. What are you getting at?

Maybe that it would be interesting to know what the numbers actually are. There is the common saying that you are more likely to get in an accident on the way to the airport than traveling on the plane, but knowing what the likelihood of both of those as well as the likelihood of an accident on a max could show this all to be hysteria or actually well founded.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by duxup »

xahrepap wrote: post #34
alpb wrote: post #26

Are you less safe on a 737 MAX than driving to the airport in a car? Genuinely curious, I’m trying to understand if this whole saga is statistically significant.

I've heard a lot of people say this in these comment threads, and I think this glosses over the actual issue: safety is getting worse, not better or even staying the same. So it's MORE statistically significant than it was. The trend is heading the wrong way. Air safety going down is a trend you want to stop ASAP. Not wait around until it's just as dangerous as something else like driving your car.

> Air safety going down

Is it?

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by uh_uh »

jmward01 wrote: post #40

Aviation is safe. An issue happened and appropriate steps have immediately happened and in the end an already incredibly safe industry will be even safer. If a car has an issue we don't blink and we loose nearly 40k people a year in the US alone, but a plane has an issue and we panic. Yes, panic. This is not rational or helpful and is a huge reason why aviation is so antiquated. You want flying cars? Stop panicking a…

I don't think it's worth celebrating an emergency door being blown off a plane that already killed 300+ people years prior. This is not how the system should work.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by dpflan »

United857 wrote: post #28

For the most reliable info, you can look up your flight number in Flightaware or Flightradar 24 -- those use actual flight plan data, so will take into account any last minute aircraft changes.

I mean, isn't the info on your ticket? Which can be electronically updated when the airline makes a change, right?

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by mlsu »

jmward01 wrote: post #40

Aviation is safe. An issue happened and appropriate steps have immediately happened and in the end an already incredibly safe industry will be even safer. If a car has an issue we don't blink and we loose nearly 40k people a year in the US alone, but a plane has an issue and we panic. Yes, panic. This is not rational or helpful and is a huge reason why aviation is so antiquated. You want flying cars? Stop panicking a…

Found the frequentist.

The fact that defects (such as "the doors falling off") are being found in planes that have rolled off the assembly line MONTHS ago causes me to second guess my priors for anything that is coming out of a Boeing factory.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by stephenr »

CafeRacer wrote: post #33
jackdh wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's better a window than the front falling off.

Lol, I still don't know if that interview is a comedy sketch or real.

It's a satirical interview about a real event: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirki_(tanker)

They (the comedians) posted similar comedic takes on politics for many years; eg this one about Australia's energy market https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ELaBzj7cn14

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by flashback2199 »

DennisP wrote: post #42
xahrepap wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard a lot of people say this in these comment threads, and I think this glosses over the actual issue: safety is getting worse, not better or even staying the same. So it's MORE statistically significant than it was. The trend is heading the wrong way. Air safety going down is a trend you want to stop ASAP. Not wait around until it's just as dangerous as something else like driving your car.

That's true, but the question might be whether you personally should be worried if you find yourself on a 737 Max.

It doesn't matter. Nothing will change unless enough people begin voting with their feet.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by legitster »

Given that every affected 737 MAX has been grounded for inspection already, this seems a bit hyperbolic. If you are still worried about some hitherto unknown new problem from Boeing, it could just as likely come from any of their airframes.
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