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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by rompledorph »

metadat wrote: post #23
gumby wrote: post #13

FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.

My iPhone 13 mini was IP rated and died after the first dunk. All of my Android Galaxy SXX phones have survived tons worse.. repeatedly. I treat the new iPhone I had to buy as if it were made of porous glass. Edit: Thanks everyone for the additional data points!

Rinsed ny iPhone XS to clean off some dirt. FaceID stopped working and I could see fog on the inside of the camera. Guess the seals/glued parts no longer held up

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Post by frandroid »

jacknews wrote: post #18
pierat wrote: post #2

Just wait, humidity and condensation will cause a spat of "water detected, fail warranty" issues. And now, jailbreaking will mean being able to reset tattletaled.

For a long time Apple apparently didn't test in hot humid climates, as the plastic they used on the macbook power cables would disintegrate and slew off after a year or so. I would not be surprised if hot humidity is also an issue with these sensors, which seem to be a user-hostile feature in any case.

It's probably worse in warm climates, but macbook cables were disintegrating everywhere for the longest time.

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Post by networkchad »

LadyCailin wrote: post #54
userbinator wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people said the same things about DRM and many other predictions that turned out to be true.

And how many predictions turned out to be false?

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #56
sen wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been snorkeling and swimming with my 14 Pro Max a couple dozen times, taking videos and photos, and never had an issue. I also wash my phone under the tap regularly (weekly or more) because I spend lots of time in a grimy workshop for hobbies. Only one data point but the waterproof aspect of modern phones is one of my absolute favorite developments.

That’s honestly kind of crazy. It’s only an IP68 rating. It’s meant for prevention of damage during quick submersion accidents, not snorkeling. >the waterproof aspect of modern phones is one of my absolute favorite developments. IP68 is water resistant, not waterproof.

I think water resistant is underselling what IP68 is a bit. The test to pass ip68 is to completely submerge the device in water up to 30 minutes. Sure that’s not water proof, but when people think water resistant they probably think “should survive water getting spilled nearby”, which is a level below “able to be completely submerged in water for up to a half hour”.

For most cases where it matters the device is waterproof for the average consumer

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

tiltowait wrote: post #46
dzhiurgis wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My 13 Pro has drowned at least 3 or 4 times, still working. Also worth mentioning it's been case free and survived countless drops. I don't understand why people put cases anymore.

My 14 Pro's back, plus one camera, completely shattered in one drop. It's luck of the draw (or nearly indistinguishable from it). I still go caseless, though.

Just physics of how the impact goes into the phone and the angle is a lot of it. Perhaps 9 out of the 10 ways you can drop an iPhone result in no damage whatsoever. That tenth angle is the perfect angle to destroy the whole back

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Post by tonyarkles »

dgrin91 wrote: post #25
stephen_g wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having used ruggedised laptops in the past - usually the keyboards are pretty horrible if they're fully waterproof. Depends between model to model, but the most fully-waterproof ones we had had a full membrane over the keyboard, making it super spongey and terrible to type on. An iPad on the other hard would be pretty easy to make fully waterproof like the phones, since it only has a couple of buttons and one port.

Touchscreens are terrible for any sort of environment requiring ruggedized gear. A little bit of rain or dirt makes the touch screen get very confused and totally useless for actual touch.

Resistive touchscreens work ok in that kind of environment, can be used with gloves… but suck quite a bit otherwise. None of the fun multitouch stuff, just a single pressure point to click with

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Post by macrolime »

gnicholas wrote: post #41
Teever wrote: post #4

I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?

Making the ports waterproof would be pretty easy, since they can do that on iPhones. But what about the ventilation areas? That's much trickier, I'd think. Making a waterproof iPad should be trivial since it has the same ports as an iPhone.

Watercooling or passive cooling with external heat sinks.

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Post by astrange »

izacus wrote: post #49
Tommah wrote: post #12

I wonder how reliable this will be. Back in the summer, my mom plugged her iPhone in to charge, and it gave a warning saying that it couldn't charge because there was liquid in the charging port. However, the port was bone-dry, and there was no liquid anywhere near the phone. It turned out that the charger didn't like the extension cord that it was plugged into. I took the extension cord away, and the phone started c…

They'll save money on warranty repairs in that case - by blaming your mom for a water spill - so it'll all work out for them. It's not even a new trick, some scammy repair companies here in Europe loved to claim water damage to avoid warranty repairs.

There are tabs inside the device that change color on water intrusion for that.

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Post by astrange »

FredFS456 wrote: post #59
gnicholas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making the ports waterproof would be pretty easy, since they can do that on iPhones. But what about the ventilation areas? That's much trickier, I'd think. Making a waterproof iPad should be trivial since it has the same ports as an iPhone.

MacBook Airs no longer have ventilation

You're thinking of fans.

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Post by wirrbel »

Tommah wrote: post #12

I wonder how reliable this will be. Back in the summer, my mom plugged her iPhone in to charge, and it gave a warning saying that it couldn't charge because there was liquid in the charging port. However, the port was bone-dry, and there was no liquid anywhere near the phone. It turned out that the charger didn't like the extension cord that it was plugged into. I took the extension cord away, and the phone started c…

The lightning port detection of "liquids" in my old iphone was never once right.
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