Live data from Hacker News

New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

nvidia.com

61–70 of 135 posts

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#61
post #4

The important bits... > The GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER arrives January 31st, starting at $999 > The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER launches January 24th, starting at $799 > The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER launches January 17th, starting at $599

And they're claiming the 4070 Super provides more performance than an 3090 at lower TDP (220W vs 350W).

The 3090 is 21% faster than a 4070, so with the 4070 SUPER having 20% more cuda cores than a 4070 then that's plausible.

But it's really more a reflection on how shitty the 4070 was than anything else tbh

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was what I came to comment. Very strange. This article https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-r... says "the RTX 4070 Ti Super is up to 10% faster than the non-Super 4070 Ti on average" So, on average, up to 10% faster, yeah seems pretty incremental.

Which is what the Super cards usually are. A minor 'mid cycle' refresh/improvement on cards, moving better components down the line to cheaper cards. But yes, very weird that none of the comparions actually show them!.

It's not weird at all. Those cards aren't meant as next buy for owners of non-Super 40xx cards. Cards are compared with cards that potential buyers currently have.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#64
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally a wise decision when it comes to anything that has this type of release schedule, from phones to 3D printers. Buy one generation, skip one, maybe upgrade the next, depending on relevant improvements.

With CPUs I'd say skip more than 1. I've been doing every 4 generations, and given how poorly Intel's 14th gen performed, I'm waiting another still. The improvements are very small in this space right now, for the most part.

Yeah I'm doing totally fine with an i7-9700K, although having 32gb sure helps.

2060Super GPU is starting to feel dated though!

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#67
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is what the Super cards usually are. A minor 'mid cycle' refresh/improvement on cards, moving better components down the line to cheaper cards. But yes, very weird that none of the comparions actually show them!.

It's not weird at all. Those cards aren't meant as next buy for owners of non-Super 40xx cards. Cards are compared with cards that potential buyers currently have.

To me it's a bit strange because it assumes a buy / not buy perspective rather than a buy this / buy that perspective.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#68

AMD also released the 7600XT today. Not particularly interesting, but if you need/want a cheapish 16GB card you now have an option beside Intel. https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1176/am...

This is another very good release that is also being somewhat bizarrely panned too. Yeah, it's essentially a 7600 16GB/4060 16GB, and that's what people wanted a few months ago, more VRAM. It also opens up a bunch of possibilities for cheap ML (in the same way the 4060 Ti 16GB does).

IMO this pretty well displaces the 4060 8GB and 16GB - it's cheaper (than even the already below-MSRP street prices) on 4060 Ti 8GB, it's way cheaper than the 16GB model. $50 over 7600 MSRP for twice the VRAM is a very fair deal, and street prices will probably float just as much as 7600 street prices have.

Clearance-priced 6700XT is a great deal but 7600/7600XT is ultimately a 6600/6600XT replacement and it's not a knock on the 7600 that it doesn't have the wider memory bus/etc - it is a lower-tier product that is only in the same price tier due to clearance markdowns.

I maintain that people are just mad about the whole last 5 years (since RTX launched) at this point and pretty much just give automatic thumbs-down to anything that isn't an absurdly out-of-band good product. The pandemic shortages and mining boom have embittered a fair number of people to the point I don't think they're coming back to hobby, and instead they sit on social media and complain.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#69
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the current generation of text and image generators, 24GB is the sweet spot

I wouldn't be shocked if the 5090 is also the only one with 24GB. Seems like NVidia is trying their hardest to suppress memory increases.

I've been hoping for a >24 GB ADA Titan consumer/gamer/retail card for a long time. The 4090 is awesome but I don't want the same VRAM as my 3090.

Re: New GeForce RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super

#70

> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's, and not the "v1" 40's. I assume the 4080 SUPER is faster than the 4080 (based on name?) but it seems cheaper and there's absolutely no comparison data

Most people don’t upgrade to the same generation super card. Most people upgrade from a 10, 20 or less so 30 series card. They are selling upgrades to older generations.

But everybody who is upgrading is trying to figure out which card to upgrade to, and are doing comparisons between the current gen cards, not between their old card and the new ones.
Post reply on HN