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Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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What does OCI mean in this context? My best guess is Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, but that doesn't seem right...

I guess this refers to OCI image format from Open Container Initiative: https://opencontainers.org/

Here is Containerfile from the repo: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/Containerfile

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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SteamOS dev here - lack of case folding is one (but solvable, we supported development on native case folding for ext4), but general stability issues are the main concern. Our testing with btrfs has not been promising for deploying it in a zero-maintenance manner to many users and finnicky SD cards and have it Just Work, but we're keeping an eye on things and weighing where we could contribute.

Is there a way for adventurous users to opt into using BTRFS on SD cards?

https://gitlab.com/popsulfr/steamos-btrfs

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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This should be working on AMD, Nvidia, and Intel. At most you may need to make minor configuration changes which we document in our wiki.

That was my hope but it doesn't work on bazzite-gnome-nvidia. I believe I tried bazzite-nvidia as well but it's been a while. Mind pointing me to a relevant doc? - it's not googleable.

https://universal-blue.org/images/nvidia/#video-playback

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of pocket. Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a year, and it just kept evolving and growi…

Do you know of NixOS and jovian NixOS? Did you consider either of those? I may compare them in detail in the future, any thoughts on how they compare?

Similar premise, but not as technically reproducible. You can create and manage your own custom images using the blue-os build systems, it's dead simple. Basically you're just writing a Dockerfile. Most of the filesystem is read-only like NixOS, but it acts like a traditional Linux system with FHS support.

It's that last part that made me switch to it from NixOS. I was tired of random things not working because of Nix's opinions on how things should work. I run Bluefin Linux with Fleek and get all the benefits I liked about Nix with none of the nonsense.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#66

Glad to see this finally up here. I posted it a couple weeks ago and was shocked that I hadn't heard of it sooner. I expected it to rocket to the top, but instead it just languished ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38642298 ). I've been blown away by Bazzite. I haven't yet (so far at least) run into any downsides of being on Bazzite instead of SteamOS, yet have had numerous upsides. I've wanted my Decks to be o…

I also have my steam deck on my tailnet via `services.tailscale.enable = true` on NixOS. I might have to do a comparison of NixOS and bazzite since bazzite has me curious.

Here is my "steamdeck os" https://github.com/Cloudef/nixos-flake/blob/master/modules/s...

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#67

Glad to see this finally up here. I posted it a couple weeks ago and was shocked that I hadn't heard of it sooner. I expected it to rocket to the top, but instead it just languished ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38642298 ). I've been blown away by Bazzite. I haven't yet (so far at least) run into any downsides of being on Bazzite instead of SteamOS, yet have had numerous upsides. I've wanted my Decks to be o…

I also have my steam deck on my tailnet via `services.tailscale.enable = true` on NixOS. I might have to do a comparison of NixOS and bazzite since bazzite has me curious.

JovianOS is also similar to Bazzite, ChimeraOS and SteamOS but its based on Nix.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and powerful Linux systems, it’s only a software problem keeping people from using the internet as it was intended, equally publishers as they are consumers.

I've tried at several points to roll my own media center PC/server setup and it's always been a very far cry from what the fire stick does for like a tenth the price and zero effort.

So yeah, I'm very keen for something plug and play in this space.

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

#69
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Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability, I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck ? Also: > - Comes with patches from SteamO…

> But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the Steamdeck? I run a homegrown gaming htpc with an R5-5600, Radeon 6800XT, and then the Xbox wireless dongle and 4 Xbone controllers with Bazzite. You'd be surprised at how much of heavy lifting is done by the kernel and mesa stacks, that's where the real work is done. Fedora does a good job pulling in kernel…

I've also built myself an HTPC for gaming on, and it works amazing since Valve gave us the Steam OS 3 UI.

However I did it a while ago and went down the HoloISO route. Would you recommend that I switch out for something like Bazzite, or are the benefits good but not *that* good that I'd have to spend a day reinstalling all my games?

Re: Bazzite – a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and handheld PCs

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Can you help me with some searchable terms for learning about case folding? Is that something specific to games? Specific to disk formats?

It's a file system feature, all it means to be case folding is that capital and non-capital letters are treated the same, as NTFS does. All Linux filesystems will by default allow "TEST" and "test" and "Test" to exist in the same folder, which no Windows application is ever intended to handle. Wine works around this by default.

NTFS is also case sensitive, however case folding is done at search time according to default windows settings.

Windows apps are expected to handle case sensitivity gracefully in non-FAT filesystems.

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