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Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

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Re: Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

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> DNS costs money to use (which I argue is not suitable for all uses.) This kind of thinking is a trap that I see many people fall into. Domains cost money because they have to cost money. Human-friendly names are a scarce resource (there can only be one google.com and one @johnsmith). They have value, and the market tends to reach equilibrium. If a scarce resource costs (or is given away for) less than some people a…

I know this is HN but not everything needs to be monetized. There is such a thing as doing something because you want to. People write open source software largely because they want to and if it helps them they might as well let others use it too. There's more than enough unused network resources on the Internet to make a free alternative to DNS. OpenNIC comes fairly close to this but still fails to provide a good re…

> I know this is HN but not everything needs to be monetized.

It's not whether something should be monetized, but rather about whether it inevitably will. It's not a question of "if", but "by whom", "when" and "how much". Either you do the monetizing, via crypto or otherwise, or you hide your head in the sand, pretend that the issue doesn't exist and let the scalpers get all the profits.

Re: Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a programmer understand the economic and societal background when they create a new project seems to be a bold assumption. Obviously tech can solve everything, right?

The reasons parent posted are just made up "facts" that fit and tell a story that sounds right. Assuming programmers, who tend to be on the more intelligent side, reject it because they don't understand faulty reasoning is a faulty assumption itself..

Comments like this are unhelpful and just read like an attempt to punch-down on someone. If you think that something doesn't make sense then you must be able to list and describe what's wrong. Or do you expect people to be able to read your mind when you post something like this? The vagueness makes it sound as if you have a point but if you do it's not included in your post.

Re: Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

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> DNS costs money to use (which I argue is not suitable for all uses.) This kind of thinking is a trap that I see many people fall into. Domains cost money because they have to cost money. Human-friendly names are a scarce resource (there can only be one google.com and one @johnsmith). They have value, and the market tends to reach equilibrium. If a scarce resource costs (or is given away for) less than some people a…

Having a programmer understand the economic and societal background when they create a new project seems to be a bold assumption. Obviously tech can solve everything, right?

[x] Condescending

[x] Pretentious

How could someone as lowly as a mere programmer possibly understand the complexity of how things cost money and their impact on participation? Sounds to me like I should have sought your esteemed council before making this project to save myself the embarrassment. In future I will make sure to consult you before I do something.

Re: Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

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Although interesting, have to also agree with others that this is bad idea regarding to potentially considered abuse to good-will run servers.

>Here sha3_256 is used again but this time inside hash160. The reason for this is stacking hash functions can help reduce the chances of finding collisions (you would need to find a collision in both functions.)

Don't you only need to find collision in the outer hash function?

Re: Building a decentralized name system on top of IRC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I must have missed the part where you pointed out a glaring hole because all I read was an explanation of how it's hard to change things after the fact (which I agree with) and some gesturing at human nature (which is contextual, i.e. it's human nature to act a certain way within a given environment but that doesn't mean it's not also human nature to act differently within a different environment). As others h…

If we're going to discuss this, I'd like to keep things on point. My specific question was, how do you propose paying for this system of allocation when the entire premise is to eliminate non-trivial domain fees. As a brief example: mycattest123.com: $17.75 plus $23.99/y mycattest123.cat: $13.00 plus $49.99/y

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about market incentive structures not alternative funding schemes.
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