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How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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>large companies can't actually realise that their design departments are not doing a great job There are obviously a lot of unhappy users with legitimate gripes. But Google would probably be looking at the growth of Gmail to validate what ever the design department is doing. That growth is pretty impressive.

Growth? Gmail grew 3 or 4 years ago. I wouldn't recommend Gmail to anyone now, it's just another Hotmail type service, there's nothing special or good about Gmail anymore. What really surprised me is how few of my friends get the 'conversation' view even in 2012. After too many awkward conversations and now their 'we've got absolutely no design skills and can't design for shit' redesign, I'm just shrugging when peopl…

I've been using gmail pretty exclusively for the past 4 years now, and haven't really had to much exposure to other services. But I've been extremely satisfied. Enough to stick around.

So just out of curiosity - what services would you recommend to an inquiring mind?

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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post #46

Their spam/filtering has gone down hill. It does a great job with the spam. Unfortunately, several people I communicate with a few times a day, half of their stuff goes straight to the trash and I don't see it. If I login to webmail I can see they have both an Inbox and Trash label on them but my phone and mail client to register the new mail and it doesn't show in the Inbox. I just want it to pick one.

Yup, I hit this too. I think they score things without SPF records as spam. Though this causes trouble because another company I use bounces mail if you use an SPF.

In the end, I'm still using Gmail and ditching the other company...but not recommending Gmail anymore because of the disruption.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>large companies can't actually realise that their design departments are not doing a great job There are obviously a lot of unhappy users with legitimate gripes. But Google would probably be looking at the growth of Gmail to validate what ever the design department is doing. That growth is pretty impressive.

Growth? Gmail grew 3 or 4 years ago. I wouldn't recommend Gmail to anyone now, it's just another Hotmail type service, there's nothing special or good about Gmail anymore. What really surprised me is how few of my friends get the 'conversation' view even in 2012. After too many awkward conversations and now their 'we've got absolutely no design skills and can't design for shit' redesign, I'm just shrugging when peopl…

Interesting, what do/would you recommend? I'm really curious because I honestly can't think of ONE email service that does email better than Gmail.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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I do not like the new redesign, and will have to implement these tips just to make it a little more usable. I wish Google wouldn't do sucky things like this. Also Googe seems to have the worst branding. Google+, really? You think that's more alluring than Facebook? Also, rebranding the android app marketplace as "Google Play"? That's just terrible.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

#65
I use the following changes to the style sheet for some more colour contrast:

    /* Increase contrast on some arrows */
    .T-I-ax7.T-I-JE .T-I-J3 {
        opacity: 0.1 !important;
    }

    /* Make new chat highlight red instead of blue */
    .Hz .k, .Hz .n, .Hz .l {
        background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(192, 0, 0) !important;
    }

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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Its a constant wonder how Google and other large companies can't actually realise that their design departments are not doing a great job. You'd think that Apple's successes might actually make them realise that great interfaces (especially if they can outdo the competition) are hugely valuable. Some things about the new design are defensible, however others are definitely not. My particular pet hate is that all the…

Apple makes plenty of UI nightmares. Examples include Snow Leopard firewall configuration dialog, the leather versions of iCal/Contacts, the finder, etc.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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post #4

I am absolutely furious how my account was forced today to the new theme - it's hideous. I've tried several stylish options to no avail, I miss the old dark layout with high contrast buttons. Even the dark theme has a bright white message pane for no reason. It also runs very sluggishly compared to the old UI, not sure why. Well this should give me the kick in the pants to get off gmail anyway.

It's slow because all the UI elements in the new themes have alpha transparency and rounded corners. It increases the amount of work your browser has to do to paint it tremendously (though GPU acceleration will help).

Rounded corners? AFAICT the defining characteristic of the new UI is that every single visual element is a rectangle with a pale grey 1px border. It's all so flat, ugh.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

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post #56

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I confess I haven't really noticed any of the button changes. This is mainly because I am almost 100% keyboard in gmail, though. Send is a quaint tab-enter. :) I can say every now and then I look for the buttons, but the only one I really ever find myself using is the refresh button, and that is simply if I wasn't already positioned on the keyboard.

/facepalm. So you've got no qualification whatsoever talking about the new interface as you avoid it entirely. What I love most is sometimes the important buttons are red and in the top left. But sometimes they are gray and in the bottom right. Which will it be today? Flip a coin! Consistency is an alien word to the Google Design Team.

I'm not sure I follow. I don't avoid it. They just happened to have not changed the way I interact with it. I confess I did find my old theme a little more pleasant to deal with, but I'm already at the point where I don't remember it anymore.

I'm curious what "important buttons" you are referring to.

I'm also curious how folks that get this worked up over their email client don't go into shock when they get a new car. Consistency is not the norm in life. Seems it is really only a norm when it was dictated by function.

Not that I feel you shouldn't get worked up over what ever you want to get worked up over. I just don't understand it.

Re: How to cope with the Gmail redesign

#70
post #9

I ended up leaving Gmail a few months ago (knowing this was coming). The new design works really poorly with browser zoom. I need to view the page zoomed in to 300% or so most of the time (I don't have good vision). Zooming really worked pretty well on all of the past iterations, up until this one. There are a number of panes that stay visible when scrolling, so the content area on the web page becomes really really…

Try http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html

Thanks for this gem!

Did they forgot to change this view or G-Plusification will kill this as well?

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