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Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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FYI Israelis are not on holiday - our holidays are on whole different dates. Hire Israelis and experience no down time while working with Silicon Valley level talent

Just hope stuff doesn’t break on sabbath, they ain’t touching no computer that day :)

They'd need a goy on-call to flick the switch.

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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post #28

FYI Israelis are not on holiday - our holidays are on whole different dates. Hire Israelis and experience no down time while working with Silicon Valley level talent

Of course, then you're complicit in funding the genocide of Palestinians. But might be worth it.

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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Holidays are excellent times for hackers to take advantage. It’s not just Christmas or other Western holidays, either. Extend this principle to any holiday/world conflict/anniversary of conflict made into holiday/calendar new year and then adjust your time of attack.

protip: US companies with offshore groups are usually underfunded, understaffed, and underskilled. Time to see if that disaster recovery environment works!

Happy holidays to those who encounter system stress tests. Can’t spell salary without some elements of slavery…

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not confuse on-call firefighters or a water facility staff with the on-call admins that maintain money-making machines monetizing attention of billions. The latter is a net negative on society.

Yeah, how dare Netflix provide entertainment on-demand and for cheaper than the other entertainment companies?

I am currently viewing this on ethically sourced rfc1149 (birds gave consent via a scientifically proven “brain electrode interface”), manually decoding packets using an abacus made out of various animal droppings foraged on the forest floor. If I can’t view your content this way, it should not be on the internet.

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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Managers, if you're reading this, and you have engineers/developers "on call" but not contractually (off book), make it so, because it slightly sucks when you're having Christmas drinks but can't enjoy yourself because you might need to drive somewhere and climb up a ladder to tend to a product.

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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Yeah, we discourage production changes starting first or second december week, and start freezing changes third december week until it's frozen solid fourth december week until second week of january. December tends to be hell for our customers, so stability should be a priority there. And honestly, no one wants to work on holidays. So lets just wrap everything starting in december, maybe use the third week for some…

How do you avoid a sort of thundering herd problem when the freeze is over?

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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post #25

Always be kind, and say it’s your fault. If you don’t do it for the sake of the person you are asking for help, do it because it works better. That’s the most practical advice [0] ever given by Hans Rosling [1], the Fact master himself: > In fact, I have the secret to how to get the best help immediately from any customer service, like the phone company or the bank or anything. I have the best line, it always works.…

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Lol, that certainly changes the perceived tone! I still like the original advice of starting off with "I've made a mistake", but that quote is more like "I'm sorry, I've made a mistake thinking that your company isn't run by idiots."

Re: Tell HN: I salute everyone on call/working support through the holidays

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post #25

Always be kind, and say it’s your fault. If you don’t do it for the sake of the person you are asking for help, do it because it works better. That’s the most practical advice [0] ever given by Hans Rosling [1], the Fact master himself: > In fact, I have the secret to how to get the best help immediately from any customer service, like the phone company or the bank or anything. I have the best line, it always works.…

You can ask customer service for help politely and constructively, without disingenuously (or passive-aggressively) stating that the problem is your fault.

If you want, you can acknowledge how you tried to fix it and failed (if that's accurate). But don't say that the problem is your fault unless it is.

(There are situations in which taking blame for a situation not necessarily yours might be a convention, but mistakes of vendors when talking with the vendor aren't one of them, IMHO. For example, you might take a little heat for colleagues, when appropriate, and all the CEO you're talking with needs to hear right then is, "Sorry, I don't have that for you yet; let me get that to you later today." Not "I've been pestering Bob since Monday for the dependency." Then you can go tell Bob that you two really need to solve this in the next couple hours. And if there's a larger problem, like Bob has been overextended by a family problem, or tasking has been unclear since a tentative pivot, then work it with management in the appropriate vertices of the org chart.)

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