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The email I got from 23andMe linked me to legal@23andme.com.
Yeah, but the actual terms say arbitrationoptout@23andme.com. I wouldn't put it past them to say "ah but you didn't email the right address".
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Most of the time we're leaking our DNA all over the place by existing
The DNA we are leaking is impossible to copy unlike the DNA we are sending to 23andme.
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Why did you send them your DNA? It was pretty obvious from day 1 that sending some random startup on the internet my DNA was a bad move.
No, I don't think that that's obvious. At least in the US, there are already protections for genetic information (including but not limited to GINA [1]). In the long run, I think keeping your genetic information private will be untenable- the potential benefits will outweigh the drawbacks. Plus, anyone sufficiently motivated could get your DNA somehow, you shed your DNA everywhere you go, no getting around that. So w…
Automatically opting-in customers to a more restrictive TOS is pretty suspect, especially given the timing. IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that a court would not allow that, given that the TOS was changed AFTER the breach and it's pretty clear that the company is trying to avoid legal issues after-the-fact. I would expect the court would evaluate any breach under the TOS that was in effect at the time of the breach, rath…
Again, IANAL. Just my opinion as a citizen, not legal advice. Seek competent legal advice before taking legal action.
[0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/adhesion_contract_(contract_...
I would have presumed that security-minded people, which includes those who work in tech, would not so easily give away their genome, and that most of 23andMe's customers are a slice of the general population. But then I read about things like WorldCoin and that people who go to startup parties jump at the chance to give away scans of their retinas and I'm befuddled. Why would anyone willingly do that?
What I find strange is that 23andMe did not automatically delete data after 30 days, or at the very least took it offline, only to be available on request. Notify people that their results are available and inform them that the data will be available for 30 days after the first download. This is potentially really sensitive data and based on 23andMe's response, they seem to be aware of that fact. So why would they keep the data around? That seem fairly irresponsible and potentially dangerous to the company.
Thanks for sharing. Will def opt out and roll into the class action suits already filed. Take security seriously people. Especially when dealing with super sensitive data.
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To duck out of the new ToS, just write this email to legal@23andme.com-- To Whom It May Concern: My name is [name], and my 23andMe account is under the email [email]. I am writing to declare that I do not agree to the new terms of service at https://www.23andme.com/legal/terms-of-service/ .
> If you do not notify us within 30 days, you will be deemed to have agreed to the new terms. WTF. This is outrageous. And I had find that email in my spam after I read this comment. Hope this POS company goes down in flames after this.
I would have presumed that security-minded people, which includes those who work in tech, would not so easily give away their genome, and that most of 23andMe's customers are a slice of the general population. But then I read about things like WorldCoin and that people who go to startup parties jump at the chance to give away scans of their retinas and I'm befuddled. Why would anyone willingly do that?
Or the reality is, if someone wants your dna they will follow you around and grab a coffee cup.
Maybe I want to steal a kidney, or a child that could reasonably pass as my own?
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They probably know that it doesn't hold water legally. The hope is to victim blame as much as possible so that fewer people sue them in the first place. The next step will be to "remind" people about the TOS that they totally agreed to.
Exactly. Same reason construction vehicles have "Stay back 200 feet: not responsible for broken windshields" written on the back.