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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by this_user »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

NC is trying to do a lot, but it's not doing anything particularly well. It feels like their development resources are spread too thin to really polish any of the features. If you just need file sharing, there are some projects that focus on that that tend to work pretty well. I have also tried running NC with OnlyOffice, but that seems to break every two weeks. And even if it works, Google's tools are just so much better. I would even choose O365 over this.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by ipcress_file »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

If you're going to do this, look for a proven stable Nextcloud solution. I followed one of the many guides on the web a couple of years ago to install Nextcloud on Debian, which worked, but the first major update broke it. I couldn't fix it because I didn't know why it broke. You wouldn't want to be in that situation with employees waiting for service to be restored.

Since then, I've been running an always-on Syncthing instance as a "cloud hub" and that's been great, though I doubt it would scale well.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by miroljub »

lakomen wrote: post #48
preya2k wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the reminder. I still expect Roundcube to become a well-maintained alternative for E-Mail clients within Nextcloud, right?

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Please ... don't do that anymore.

When I want to "enjoy" memes, I'll go reddit, not HN. Let's keep it clean.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by no_wizard »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

you might want to check out ownCloud[0] if you're purely interested in file sharing. Its all open source and you can run your own server.

I can't attest to how well it runs currently, as I haven't used it for a few years, but I used it a couple years ago and it was pretty solid

[0]: https://owncloud.com/

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by jordemort »

I really want to like Nextcloud. I had it all set up perfectly earlier this year with their "AIO" setup. Then some upgrade came along and completely destroyed my install, couldn't get the containers to start after that, couldn't figure out how to debug it; seemed like the only way to get it back on its feet was to wipe and start over. I wiped; I haven't started over yet.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by clawoo »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

Yeah, you need to run away from Nextcloud as far and as fast as possible.

I made the mistake of recommending it and setting it up for my 10 person team earlier this year and it has only been constant headaches.

Reporting bugs to GitHub is especially frustrating because the devs will just discard them, regardless of how well documented and reproducible they are. There was a mess with its Postgres connection pool where it would quickly run out of available slots if you used Collabora, the Google Docs clone, the devs rejected the bug reports without a second thought although there were many users who reported the problem.

This last hour I've been fighting it trying to reset a user's password, it says that it "cannot decrypt the recovery key".

I check whether the recovery key is enabled for that user, it says "Recovery key is not enabled".

I check whether encryption is enabled, it reports it as "false".

It's by far the flakiest piece of software I've used in 2023.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by velcrovan »

preya2k wrote: post #6

I'm glad the post states that Roundcube will stay an independent product. Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud. I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.

The first and only time I had a server hacked was due to a RoundCube vulnerability in 2006.

Just a month ago there was news of a RoundCube XSS zero-day that was widely exploited (https://cyberpedia.medium.com/state-sponsored-cyberattacks-l...).

Don’t use RoundCube!

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by op00to »

eurekin wrote: post #28
op00to wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wondered why photographers held on to negatives/raw files for so long. How often does the need to return years later come up, and can that justify the cost of storing all that in a way that’s somewhat reliable? I’m not saying there aren’t valid reasons to do so, and throwing the pictures on a few externals drives isn’t terrible, but to do it “right” seems like it would be super expensive!

Oh, I'd throw them away in a blink, If I were not lazy: Almost after every shoot, people come back "remember that one photo, where I smiled at sth? I'm very sentimental about that, cause it's [some important thing to them]", which necessitates the need to hold on to every photo taken on the session. So no real deletes here, even if it came out technically wrong (blurry, blown out, etc.). Those requests lessen, but do…

Totally understandable! As a service provider, you want to be able to fulfill those requests because it will make you their go-to person for life. Pretty cheap compared to the benefits you can get.

Despite constantly crowing at researchers in my past life that they will lose all their data ... it only happened once or twice, and both times was related to theft and not drive failure.

I wonder if you could sell a type of "archive protection plan" as an add-on to your work. It's like $70 a year to store 500GB on Glacier. I am sort of assuming each shoot is 500GB? You could guarantee access for those customers who want it.

If we're being honest with each other, I would do the exact thing you're doing and focus more on my business. :)

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by INTPenis »

I sure hope there are no changes to standalone roundcube, because I'm just starting to think nextcloud is too heavy.

I see people on selfhosting forums asking for alternatives.

It would be sad if they swallowed roundcube, which I remember as a decent web email client.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by deng »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #55

Comments here seem to suggest that Nextcloud isn't worth it. Later today I'm supposed to talk with some folks at IT looking for an in-house file-sharing/collaboration tool that Dropbox/GoogleDrive is (or was, because after GoogleDrive price hikes our institution ditched them). I was going to suggest Nextcloud as a possible option to investigate...

If you are willing to spend some money, rather look at OwnCloud hosting or maybe self-hosting with professional support. While NextCloud just added feature after feature and IMHO bit off more than they could chew, OwnCloud started to rewrite things in Go and improved speed and stability. Also, I hear their support is better.
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