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Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by 29athrowaway »

justrealist wrote: post #15
madsbuch wrote: post #6

Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something. In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.

California was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left. Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.

Not accurate.

What is known as the American state of California was part of the state of Alta California in Mexico, which was annexed by the US during the Mexican American war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_California

Years later, the Mexicans as well as their descendants, who were Americans by Jus soli (birthright citizenship) were ethnically cleansed during the Mexican Repatriation, where they were kidnapped, put into buses and trucks and sent to Mexico.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

Many Mexicans are mestizos (mixed with Native Americans), so they have a deeper connection to the land dating to tens of thousands of years and this is reflected in the population genetic haplogroups.

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by kamikazeturtles »

poisonarena wrote: post #41
native90230932 wrote: post #38

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acccount created 2 minutes ago just to write this?

A lot of discrimination against people who don't speak the host nations language (especially in Europe) so maybe the above commenter felt he needed to defend non-English speakers in California

Nothing wrong with that

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by outside1234 »

I’m one of these households. My wife has spoken speaks Norwegian almost exclusively at home with the kids for 12 years.

Our kids are taking Spanish in junior high, so now we have switched over to Spanish a few nights a week. Neither of us are native in Spanish but can read, listen, and speak at a high level.

Honestly, it is hard with teenagers, but once you break through it is fun. We are all learning together. And we have tacos or tapas on Spanish night (Tuesdays and/or Thursdays)

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by mistrial9 »

justrealist wrote: post #15
madsbuch wrote: post #6

Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something. In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.

California was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left. Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.

certain native people had trading routes that went all the way from Central America up to Washington State.

source: a group that still does this, and has land near Mt Shasta too

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by skrebbel »

0cVlTeIATBs wrote: post #24
netbioserror wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain exactly what you’re “all for”? Because of the handful of interpretations of your post, several are downright psychotic.

The only interpretation I can see is in support of Great Replacement.

Wait you can be in favor of conspiracy theories? I never even considered that.

Ok then I’m in favor of the Worldwide Jewish Plot

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by barbacoa »

netbioserror wrote: post #11
plaguna wrote: post #2

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Can you explain exactly what you’re “all for”? Because of the handful of interpretations of your post, several are downright psychotic.

In upsidedown universe where victimhood is a virtue, destroying one's own culture is the highest calling.

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by iaseiadit »

bugglebeetle wrote: post #32

Whenever I see Europeans railing about the destruction of their cultures by small number of immigrants, I want to point to California and be like “you’re doing it wrong.” Pretty much within one generation, everyone here is bilingual, fully integrated, we all enjoy each others company, culture and food etc.

California went from around 85% white European to 35% in roughly a generation (from 1960s to today). Statewide, only 20% of California students are white so their numbers will continue to decline for the foreseeable future.

The US is a melting pot culture and people accept these changes, but there’s no reason that European cultures need to replicate this in their own countries.

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by wyldfire »

loeg wrote: post #37
tgv wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it's the other way around. I don't think anyone has yet declared their motives to riot, but the perp has been identified as Algerian. It's also true that the rioters probably knew this.

> the perp has been identified as Algerian The BBC says otherwise: > It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960

The beeb also says that the guy (a guy?) who intervened is an immigrant from Brazil.

> Brazilian Caio Benicio was riding past the scene in the city centre on Thursday afternoon and stopped to intervene.

> Mr Benicio has been living in the Republic of Ireland for the past year and works as a fast-food courier for Deliveroo.

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by jjgreen »

OnlyMortal wrote: post #29
jjgreen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK does not have an official language.

Correct. It’s the defacto. Indeed, there’s even no official version of English unlike, say, French and Dutch.

That there is no Académie anglaise is a fact which surprises and appalls the French.

Re: Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language at home

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Post by caslon »

mrweasel wrote: post #46
olalonde wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know but my wife used to play mahjong in SF Chinatown and almost no one spoke English, including some people who had been in the US for over 30 years. It was a bit surprising.

The next town over from me have a large Vietnamese community, the older generation frequently only speak Vietnamese, relying on their children and grandchildren to help them navigate in society, doctors appointments, interacting with the government and all those things. I'm continuously surprised that someone would refuse to learn the language of a country they lived in for almost 50 years... Like WHY? Seems rather r…

Learning one language is hard. Only 46% of American native English speakers have above a 6th grade reading level. 20% are functionally illiterate.

https://www.barbarabush.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/BBFou...

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