Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

rachelmarone.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 236 posts

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#62

Post by rms »

META

OK everyone. You might have noticed that Hacker News has gone downhill lately. A common pattern is for the number one comment to be some vaguely negative and uninteresting post. In this case, it's also an inflammatory post that wrongly blames the victim.

I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real. I was uselessly harassed by him because I spoke at Extreme Futurist Fest. He's real, he's crazy, and sometimes the police aren't effective.

Please be nice everyone. Think seriously before you make a comment. If it's one sentence long, it's probably a useless comment.

EDIT: When I made this comment, the #1 comment was unhelpful and just blamed Rachel. It has since been deleted by the poster, who perhaps reconsidered the utility of posting in this thread. Again, I don't want to be here, normally I would stay really far away from a thread like this, I just know that Rachel is a real person and I don't like to see trolls crapping all over this thread on this website that once meant so much to me.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#64

Post by reason »

Before this gets out of hand: PG, I think it'd great if you added another HN guideline that states that people should wait to hear both sides of an issue before stating their opinion, especially when it comes to these premature PR 'blunders'.

Edit: Downvoted? Nice, guys.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#65

Post by damncabbage »

[deleted] wrote: post #61
kf wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, she has a real cyberstalker.

[deleted]

  The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been 
  unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. 
  The police say that he is “good at what he does.” Can 
  people like this be stopped if they cannot be found?
http://experimenthaywire.net/is-there-a-solution-to-cybersta...

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#66

Post by jasonlotito »

chris_wot wrote: post #60
jasonlotito wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is attacking the victim ? I'm asking for proof, not suggesting anything else. And I'm not defending KickStarter. I'm defending HN from those who would ignore reason and intelligence in place of emotion and ignorance.

I'm not certain that Hacker News really needs your defense. Let's hear what KickStarter has to say about this. If Daniella Jaeger indeed said "If there is any chance that Rachel will receive spam from a stalker on her project, she should not create one. We simply cannot allow a project to become a forum for rampant spam, as her past project became." then she should apologize and look at the way that the project handl…

> I'm not certain that Hacker News really needs your defense.

You're wrong. It does. People need to be told, flat out, the this isn't a board that wants nor appreciates mob-mentality. It promotes reason and rationality. As a long* time member of HN, threads like this are a blight. Not because of the parties involved, but because we are doing things we abhor in others.

> Either way, Daniella needs to respond to this allegation.

I hate that mentality. I understand the reasoning, but essentially we are requiring people to respond to trolls. I say this within the context of what we know: a unsubstantiated blog post is claiming certain things. There are numerous steps that could be taken to provide more proof, and I think it's important that evidence is provided to avoid these types of issues.

Basically, I see this as the same as me accusing Rachel of setting this all up as a marketing stunt. And then posting some italicized text and claiming it's from her. It's equally as credible as things stand now.

Edit: * I just want to add that I don't presume that it needs my help. Rather, every member is, in their own way, responsible for moderating HN. It can only be defended by it's users.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#67

Post by kf »

[deleted] wrote: post #61
kf wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, she has a real cyberstalker.

[deleted]

Are there very many circumstances where it is useful to discuss specific, possibly ongoing legal matters on the Internet? Honestly, even if the authorities could deal with this effectively and find said dude, if I thought he was ultimately harmless I wouldn't want him to be thrown in a cage for years for posting a bunch of harassing comments. It's sad that mental illness is a crime.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#68

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

jasonlotito wrote: post #42
SuperChihuahua wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the emails inserted in the post so they are not groundless

I just got an email from Rachel: Jason, Rachel Marone here. You know it's me and valid because it's in italics, and that makes it true. Anyways, everything I posted on my blog is a lie. Just wanted to say that. Honestly, Rachel Marone Well, we can go home now.

It would be very odd indeed if kickstarter are in a position to deny the email quoted on Rachel's website. I.e. if it is as fake as the one above. That would be her throwing whatever reputation she has away.

But I would be happier if they can confirm or deny it. No doubt they will be pressed to do so in the next few days, and a fuller picture will emerge.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#69

Post by kf »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #59

Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feuds related to her "music project." In one of many incidents, her and her mother sent DMCA takedown requests to LiveJournal based on negative information being posted by another user (completely unrelated to copyright). Please do not give her attention. At leas…

Old drama is uninteresting. What's wrong with being mentally ill? I'm definitely not neurotypical, just like half of Silicon Valley geeks. Try raising VC money in Silicon Valley without projecting the image of irrationally exuberant hypomania. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/bill-nguyen-startups

Your comment is exactly the kind that threatens to make this thread a trainwreck. Be nice! Rachel is a very real person that can't raise money on Kickstarter because Kickstarter can't deal with one asshole posting 400 spam comments.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#70

Post by nicholas_tuzzio »

reason wrote: post #64

Before this gets out of hand: PG, I think it'd great if you added another HN guideline that states that people should wait to hear both sides of an issue before stating their opinion, especially when it comes to these premature PR 'blunders'. Edit: Downvoted? Nice, guys.

I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Stuff like what's mentioned in this article, weird PayPal stuff, or random Google account banning doesn't get fixed unless it gets publicity and outrage. There's good reason to believe that Kickstarter would ignore this unless/until people start to get upset about it. The whole point of this being at the top of HN is to get Kickstarter to say/do something.
Post reply on HN