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OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by tucnak »

bigbillheck wrote: post #51
xvector wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you actually read the sister's accusations? They read like the rantings of a paranoid schizophrenic. One or two things, I could believe, but the sheer volume of ridiculously extreme accusations is impossible to believe.

Getting abused will mess you up in all sorts of ways. And in any case, someone as rich as Sam Altman letting a close relative live in poverty like that is by itself a pretty damning inditement of his character.

Would you feel better had he locked her up in premier upclass mental institution?

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by NewEntryHN »

robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

It has not escaped close scrutiny. It's just that people don't go around accusing a specific person without evidence.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by olalonde »

siva7 wrote: post #33
olalonde wrote: post #24

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If we are to believe media reports. But why do customers and employees care that much about having Sam Altman as CEO? Sam was just at the right place at the right time. He is no doubt competent but not some kind of irreplaceable AI or management prodigy. OpenAI's true strength lies in its AI research team and their groundbreaking models. The C-suite is just a sideshow.

I'm sure this question can be answered better by the employees themselves and they voted very clearly that they don't want a leadership unter the current board that ousted Sam and Greg. As for why customers care about who the CEO is, i'm not even sure if you're seriously asking these questions.

I see your point, but I am somewhat skeptical about leaks. I'm open to being convinced about how Sam's leadership played a pivotal role in OpenAI's success, or why finding a suitable replacement might be difficult. Are there specific instances where his decisions clearly influenced the course of events?

Observing from the outside, it feels like the bulk of the credit goes to their AI team and that Sam was just there to make sure the machine was well oiled. Maybe he was really good at that, I don't know. Their productization of models wasn't that great, starting with the name, "ChatGPT". IMO, the real driving force has been the unparalleled capabilities of their models rather than branding or marketing.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by siva7 »

dnissley wrote: post #42

A writer for wired says they have reason to believe this story is a fabrication (although doesn't explain why): https://twitter.com/willknight/status/1726793735143621058

The only difference: the informer is a respected publication while wired is wired and you're not gonna make it better with a claim and then not follow-up with any kind of evidence. But at this point it could be all fabrication. Journalism is mostly a joke at this point.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by acdha »

tucnak wrote: post #61
bigbillheck wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting abused will mess you up in all sorts of ways. And in any case, someone as rich as Sam Altman letting a close relative live in poverty like that is by itself a pretty damning inditement of his character.

Would you feel better had he locked her up in premier upclass mental institution?

You don’t see any other possibilities? Not, say, paying her rent (or, realistically, buying a house with his spare change and letting her live there) or chipping in for therapy? His net worth is estimated to be in the half billion range so he’d never even notice the cost.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by no_identd »

drexlspivey wrote: post #34
robg wrote: post #13

Looking more and more like the dev day nuking of D’Angelo’s Poe led to this outcome. I’m surprised that connection has escaped close scrutiny - it was a conflict of interest AND now Poe is viable again as intended. For a minor player in AI he’s managed to maximize his interests and while serving on a non-profit board.

I see stuff like this spreading in social media and it’s always people speculating without any evidence. On Saturday it was a coup by Ilya, on Sunday it was a coup by effective altruists/decelerationists on the board, today is D’Angelo’s Poe getting eaten up tomorrow it will be something else. Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company lo…

I think you might have mixed up effective accelerationist with effective altruists there, but I couldn't say for sure

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by singularity2001 »

drexlspivey wrote: post #50
siva7 wrote: post #45

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Your argumentation against parent is very fluffy. > Your theory collapses in the slightest amount of scrutiny, if D’Angelo tries to destroy the company due to his own company losing value why would the other 3 board members be on board with that? The other 3 have their own motives which have been repeated over and over here. It came to light that there were strong tensions between Helen and Sam as he wanted her to be…

And you figured out 4 different motives for 4 different people based on what exactly?

The motives are well documented. Whether these motives were enough to pull the trigger, or other motives will appear remains to be seen.

Re: OpenAI's board approached Anthropic CEO about top job and merger

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Post by tucnak »

acdha wrote: post #65
tucnak wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you feel better had he locked her up in premier upclass mental institution?

You don’t see any other possibilities? Not, say, paying her rent (or, realistically, buying a house with his spare change and letting her live there) or chipping in for therapy? His net worth is estimated to be in the half billion range so he’d never even notice the cost.

I'm not prepared to assess people's personal business, and I believe it's inappropriate for us to discuss their relationship as none of us are privy to their personal history, who paid for what, who approached who or approached not, and so on.
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